So how important is Lattimore?

K Major · 11-27-2017, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I honestly think we need to address the future at QB via this draft. We also need better receivers, Coleman, Snead and Ginn just aren't getting it done.

Jarvis Landry will become a UFA in 2018 and he's only 24. Interested?

dizzle88 · 11-27-2017, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Jarvis Landry will become a UFA in 2018 and he's only 24. Interested?

Absolutely interested, imagine Thomas on one side, Landry on the other, then factor in Kamara, that is dangerous.

jeanpierre · 11-28-2017, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Super important, but I think he may be the first stone of a building block.

We desperately need a player like Cam Jordan on the opposite side, year after year he delivers with no real help.

I honestly think we need to address the future at QB via this draft. We also need better receivers, Coleman, Snead and Ginn just aren't getting it done.

Salary Cap, Salary Cap, Salary Cap...

Past three years we had one, two shots in FA, and if we missed - 7 & 9; for this offense, our receivers are just fine...

Not sold on Mass&Ass at RG and Peat's a LT and has to play there now with Mr. Glass always missing time...

Show Hendrickson, a rookie who's had limited, effective reps compared to his other Saints Rookie Classmates, some love as he'll get better with more reps...

We absolutely need to get Drew's successor in this draft; Drew's still better than most NFL quarterbacks, but he's not long for the sun...

Inconsistent push and disruption from the NT and DT3 is our problem on the defensive line...

And in today's pass-happy NFL, you've got to be four-deep at CB and three-deep at S, and we're close, but not there yet...

K Major · 11-28-2017, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And in today's pass-happy NFL, you've got to be four-deep at CB and three-deep at S, and we're close, but not there yet...

JP aka Saints GM ...

What are you doing with Kenny V this off season? Offer him a fair deal? Let him walk? Look for his successor in the 2018 draft?

I think this topic (safety/corner back position) needs it's own thread.

ChrisXVI · 11-28-2017, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

JP aka Saints GM ...

What are you doing with Kenny V this off season? Offer him a fair deal? Let him walk? Look for his successor in the 2018 draft?

I think this topic (safety/corner back position) needs it's own thread.

Not JP, but Vacarro’s impending free agency is very intriguing to me. This past offseason the top free agent deals for SS were these:

Tony Jefferson- 4 years/$34 million (Avg: $8.5 mil/year)
Micah Hyde- 5 years/$30.5 million (Avg: $6.1 mil/year)
Barry Church- 4 years/$26 million (Avg: $6.5 mil/year)
John Cyprien- 4 years/$25 million (Avg: $6.25 mil/year)

Vacarro’s 5th year option is costing us $5.67 million. I don’t think it would be too unreasonable to give him a slight bump in salary and give him a deal similar to the deals above that average between $6-6.5 million/year.

SmashMouth · 11-27-2017, 03:58 PM

Yeah but, how much $? Is it worth busting the checkbook for this?

Lord_Saint83 · 11-27-2017, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yeah but, how much $? Is it worth busting the checkbook for this?

It sure is just do the loomis signature move back load the contract of landry and then apply the rob peter to pay paul move and back load other players contract or convert it to a signing bonus to free up some cash problem solved.

P.S. please know im serious about landry but joking about how to do it

Saint in Aus · 11-27-2017, 05:22 PM

Make no mistake, when Goff heard that Lattimore was out he would have thought all his christmas’ come at once. Let alone when he also found out Crawley was also out.

While it would have been nice to beat the Rams our season will be defined over the next five weeks.

WHO DAT?!?!

ScottF · 11-27-2017, 05:34 PM

At the beginning of the day you would have thought only giving up 26 points would be good enough.
The offense didn't do their jobs of scoring points and staying on the field. Take away Kamara's big run and we had >50 yards rushing.

Add in Sh***y special teams and you're not going to win, with or without Lattimore

K Major · 11-27-2017, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Add in Sh***y special teams and you're not going to win, with or without Lattimore

It sure didn't help kicking to Pharoh Cooper either. I would have much rather we kicked it out of bounds. That's a real threat for the Rams.

11-27-2017, 03:30 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,854 Blog Entries: 3	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I honestly think we need to address the future at QB via this draft. We also need better receivers, Coleman, Snead and Ginn just aren't getting it done. Jarvis Landry will become a UFA in 2018 and he's only 24. Interested? dizzle88, MarchingOn and captainshawn like this.

11-27-2017, 03:40 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,548	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Originally Posted by K Major Jarvis Landry will become a UFA in 2018 and he's only 24. Interested? Absolutely interested, imagine Thomas on one side, Landry on the other, then factor in Kamara, that is dangerous.

11-28-2017, 12:41 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Super important, but I think he may be the first stone of a building block. We desperately need a player like Cam Jordan on the opposite side, year after year he delivers with no real help. I honestly think we need to address the future at QB via this draft. We also need better receivers, Coleman, Snead and Ginn just aren't getting it done. Salary Cap, Salary Cap, Salary Cap... Past three years we had one, two shots in FA, and if we missed - 7 & 9; for this offense, our receivers are just fine... Not sold on Mass&Ass at RG and Peat's a LT and has to play there now with Mr. Glass always missing time... Show Hendrickson, a rookie who's had limited, effective reps compared to his other Saints Rookie Classmates, some love as he'll get better with more reps... We absolutely need to get Drew's successor in this draft; Drew's still better than most NFL quarterbacks, but he's not long for the sun... Inconsistent push and disruption from the NT and DT3 is our problem on the defensive line... And in today's pass-happy NFL, you've got to be four-deep at CB and three-deep at S, and we're close, but not there yet... hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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11-28-2017, 08:33 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,854 Blog Entries: 3	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Originally Posted by jeanpierre And in today's pass-happy NFL, you've got to be four-deep at CB and three-deep at S, and we're close, but not there yet... JP aka Saints GM ... What are you doing with Kenny V this off season? Offer him a fair deal? Let him walk? Look for his successor in the 2018 draft? I think this topic (safety/corner back position) needs it's own thread.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Originally Posted by K Major JP aka Saints GM ... What are you doing with Kenny V this off season? Offer him a fair deal? Let him walk? Look for his successor in the 2018 draft? I think this topic (safety/corner back position) needs it's own thread. Not JP, but Vacarro’s impending free agency is very intriguing to me. This past offseason the top free agent deals for SS were these: Tony Jefferson- 4 years/$34 million (Avg: $8.5 mil/year) Micah Hyde- 5 years/$30.5 million (Avg: $6.1 mil/year) Barry Church- 4 years/$26 million (Avg: $6.5 mil/year) John Cyprien- 4 years/$25 million (Avg: $6.25 mil/year) Vacarro’s 5th year option is costing us $5.67 million. I don’t think it would be too unreasonable to give him a slight bump in salary and give him a deal similar to the deals above that average between $6-6.5 million/year. K Major likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,067 Blog Entries: 29	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Yeah but, how much $? Is it worth busting the checkbook for this? hagan714 likes this.

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Originally Posted by SmashMouth Yeah but, how much $? Is it worth busting the checkbook for this? It sure is just do the loomis signature move back load the contract of landry and then apply the rob peter to pay paul move and back load other players contract or convert it to a signing bonus to free up some cash problem solved. P.S. please know im serious about landry but joking about how to do it

11-27-2017, 05:22 PM	#8
Saint in Aus 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 468	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Make no mistake, when Goff heard that Lattimore was out he would have thought all his christmas’ come at once. Let alone when he also found out Crawley was also out. While it would have been nice to beat the Rams our season will be defined over the next five weeks. WHO DAT?!?! SaintFanInATLHELL and Rugby Saint II like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,854 Blog Entries: 3	Re: So how important is Lattimore? Originally Posted by ScottF Add in Sh*y special teams** and you're not going to win, with or without Lattimore It sure didn't help kicking to Pharoh Cooper either. I would have much rather we kicked it out of bounds. That's a real threat for the Rams.

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