What we learned from our loss on Thursday night

foreverfan · 12-08-2017, 10:30 AM

Not having out star RB can cost you the game.

jeanpierre · 12-08-2017, 10:58 AM

Two things I knew was reinforced - fans of the atl are among the worst in football and not everyone is ready to embrace the NFL after slighting the anthem...

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|Mitch| · 12-08-2017, 11:12 AM

What I learned?! Someone paid the referees off...

Illegal helmet to helmet hit on Kamara which resulted in a concussion

OPI on Sanu's touchdown wasn't called

A sneeze on Ryan that resulted in a roughing the passer

Numerous holding penalties on the Falcons which were turned a blind eye to

WillSaints81 · 12-08-2017, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I agree Brees has no WR/TE weapons... hell Thomas is really only a possession guy, but Brees knows better than to throw that ball. You could tell by his expression that he knew it was on him.

Regardless, the better team lost tonight. It pisses me off because this basically ensures we won’t get a first round bye. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games.

We can still get a first round bye. We have an easier remaining schedule than Minnesota. But Minnesota has to lose week 15 to Cincinatti.

Papa Voodoo · 12-08-2017, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I learned that Josh Hill is never going to be our TE. It's time to scrap the roster at that position and start over. Cap hits or whatever else. Keep whosyourmama but give the rest their papers and call it a day.

I've been down on the TEs for a while. They stink. The year we traded JG Sean said Hill had all the makings to play that type of role. He didn't do it then and never has. Hill is a good back up TE, but not a starter. Even if we had made a trade this year to get JG back that was still an INT by Drew. He is human; he forced a ball ala Favre. Ryan was a pickosaurus last night. The young players will learn and Drew knows better.

Get healthy. Focus on the Jets. Get a W. Then the Falcons will face our wrath and that will be then end of the BS just like Carloina. We're going to the playoffs so enjoy it

Papa Voodoo · 12-08-2017, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

What I learned?! Someone paid the referees off...

Illegal helmet to helmet hit on Kamara which resulted in a concussion

OPI on Sanu's touchdown wasn't called

A sneeze on Ryan that resulted in a roughing the passer

Numerous holding penalties on the Falcons which were turned a blind eye to

I may have missed a rule but I think it's still fair game (like PT in San Fran) to hit helmet to helmet on a RB as long as it isn't egregious. I enjoyed seeing us be able to play without Kamara. We showed we can play without doing what we did with JG. The roughing the passer was a joke, but home cooking is to be expected. We got a huge call in our favor last week against Carolina. You have to beat the opponent and the refs. The Patriots do this well.

|Mitch| · 12-08-2017, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

I may have missed a rule but I think it's still fair game (like PT in San Fran) to hit helmet to helmet on a RB as long as it isn't egregious.

You can't however crown to crown spear him though; even Shanle/Fujita wer livid on twitter last night over it...

WillMacKenzie · 12-08-2017, 06:09 PM

I personally learned I can never be drunk enough

ChrisXVI · 12-08-2017, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

You can't however crown to crown spear him though; even Shanle/Fujita wer livid on twitter last night over it...

He didn’t spear him. You can hit a guy and make helmet to helmet contact.

AsylumGuido · 12-08-2017, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

He didn’t spear him. You can hit a guy and make helmet to helmet contact.

Not if the crown of the helmet is used and the player is deemed defenseless, or unaware of the impending contact. The crown was used and the blow was from the side where Kamara was defenseless, or had no chance of avoiding the direct contact.

If any of you do not believe that Deion Jones didn't plant that head hit on purpose then I don't know what to think.

12-08-2017, 10:30 AM	#21
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Not having out star RB can cost you the game. Rugby Saint II and Thirty3 like this.

12-08-2017, 10:58 AM	#22
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Two things I knew was reinforced - fans of the atl are among the worst in football and not everyone is ready to embrace the NFL after slighting the anthem... Twitter RockyMountainSaint and Papa Voodoo like this.

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12-08-2017, 11:27 AM	#24
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by blackangold I agree Brees has no WR/TE weapons... hell Thomas is really only a possession guy, but Brees knows better than to throw that ball. You could tell by his expression that he knew it was on him. Regardless, the better team lost tonight. It pisses me off because this basically ensures we won’t get a first round bye. Need to get healthy and we’ll easily win the next 3 games. We can still get a first round bye. We have an easier remaining schedule than Minnesota. But Minnesota has to lose week 15 to Cincinatti.

12-08-2017, 11:44 AM	#25
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by saintfan I learned that Josh Hill is never going to be our TE. It's time to scrap the roster at that position and start over. Cap hits or whatever else. Keep whosyourmama but give the rest their papers and call it a day. I've been down on the TEs for a while. They stink. The year we traded JG Sean said Hill had all the makings to play that type of role. He didn't do it then and never has. Hill is a good back up TE, but not a starter. Even if we had made a trade this year to get JG back that was still an INT by Drew. He is human; he forced a ball ala Favre. Ryan was a pickosaurus last night. The young players will learn and Drew knows better. Get healthy. Focus on the Jets. Get a W. Then the Falcons will face our wrath and that will be then end of the BS just like Carloina. We're going to the playoffs so enjoy it Rell&Gold likes this.

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12-08-2017, 11:48 AM	#26
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| What I learned?! Someone paid the referees off... Illegal helmet to helmet hit on Kamara which resulted in a concussion OPI on Sanu's touchdown wasn't called A sneeze on Ryan that resulted in a roughing the passer Numerous holding penalties on the Falcons which were turned a blind eye to I may have missed a rule but I think it's still fair game (like PT in San Fran) to hit helmet to helmet on a RB as long as it isn't egregious. I enjoyed seeing us be able to play without Kamara. We showed we can play without doing what we did with JG. The roughing the passer was a joke, but home cooking is to be expected. We got a huge call in our favor last week against Carolina. You have to beat the opponent and the refs. The Patriots do this well.

12-08-2017, 12:00 PM	#27
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo I may have missed a rule but I think it's still fair game (like PT in San Fran) to hit helmet to helmet on a RB as long as it isn't egregious. You can't however crown to crown spear him though; even Shanle/Fujita wer livid on twitter last night over it...

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12-08-2017, 07:00 PM	#29
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| You can't however crown to crown spear him though; even Shanle/Fujita wer livid on twitter last night over it... He didn’t spear him. You can hit a guy and make helmet to helmet contact.

12-08-2017, 07:42 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He didn’t spear him. You can hit a guy and make helmet to helmet contact. Not if the crown of the helmet is used and the player is deemed defenseless, or unaware of the impending contact. The crown was used and the blow was from the side where Kamara was defenseless, or had no chance of avoiding the direct contact. If any of you do not believe that Deion Jones didn't plant that head hit on purpose then I don't know what to think. Thirty3 likes this.