Saints fans sues over protests

SmashMouth · 12-13-2017, 06:02 AM

A Saints fan is suing the team for the cost of his season tickets, because he said he was upset by player protests during the national anthem.

But those protests may not have actually started at the time which he became so offended he decided to stop going to games.

According to Chad Calder of the New Orleans Advocate, Lee Dragna of Morgan City, La. is suing the Saints for a refund of his season tickets, claiming the protests prevented him and his family from enjoying a game.

One potential problem: The Saints may not have made any political statements at the game he attended, the home opener on Sept. 17 against the Patriots.

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hagan714 · 12-13-2017, 06:26 AM

the nfl is responsible for the action of visiting teams in the super dome. the saints are a franchise of the NFL thus can not avoid the responsibility.

Nice try Mark but it does not hold water

Cruize · 12-13-2017, 06:58 AM

He will lose. He should lose.

voodooido · 12-14-2017, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

He will lose. He should lose.

Don’t bet on it. The right judge at the right time and this guys a millionaire. For crap sake look at all the rogue liberal judges doing what they want. This guy might get a vet.

saintfan · 12-14-2017, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Don’t bet on it. The right judge at the right time and this guys a millionaire. For crap sake look at all the rogue liberal judges doing what they want. This guy might get a vet.

Those rogue Judges are being phased out, thank God. Let's hope that continues.

This guy has no case. He's wasting his money. Human evolution has slowed to a crawl...

neugey · 12-13-2017, 07:07 AM

I know it sucks to be out some money, but tearing up the tickets and walking away would seem a lot less painful.

CheramieIII · 12-13-2017, 07:16 AM

I would agree with this guy. He purchased the tickets to have his family entertained my given someone else's political views. There is a time and place for everything.

homerj07 · 12-13-2017, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

I would agree with this guy. He purchased the tickets to have his family entertained my given someone else's political views. There is a time and place for everything.

Ok. I can see that argument. Did this fan also get upset about the religion that has been inserted in the game?

If not, why?

How is it different? You don't agree with one because you believe it is offensive. It takes away from the entertainment value.

But, praying, praising God, whatever, that's OK because you don't find that offensive?

How are the two different?

I don't watch football for politics BUT I also don't watch to be preached at.

burningmetal · 12-13-2017, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Ok. I can see that argument. Did this fan also get upset about the religion that has been inserted in the game?

If not, why?

How is it different? You don't agree with one because you believe it is offensive. It takes away from the entertainment value.

But, praying, praising God, whatever, that's OK because you don't find that offensive?

How are the two different?

I don't watch football for politics BUT I also don't watch to be preached at.

Who is preaching to you? You want to know what the differences between the two things you mentioned are? One is a private matter that isn't stated in protest, and the other is something that entire teams are doing, and it has often been done in the middle of our National Anthem. You use the word religion, but there are a lot of different beliefs. As a Christian myself, I have a lot of problems with "religions" that pop up around the world. But if I see someone praying during a game, and I know he isn't a Christian, I am not offended. I would wish that the person were not praying to some pagan "god", or whatever else, but I believe in his right to have his religious freedom. It isn't something that is in your face, and making a political statement.

Major difference.

homerj07 · 12-13-2017, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Who is preaching to you? You want to know the difference between the two things you mentioned are? One is a private matter that isn't stated in protest, and the other is something that entire teams are doing, and it has often been done in the middle of our National Anthem. You use the word religion, but there are a lot of different beliefs. As a Christian myself, I have a lot of problems with "religions" that pop up around the world. But if I see someone praying during a game, and I know he isn't a Christian, I am not offended. I would wish that the person where not praying to some pagan "god", or whatever else, but I believe in his right to have his religious freedom. It isn't something that is in your face, and making a political statement.

Major difference.

NO... its not. And please don't pull the "As a Christian" - I am too.

IF it wasn't Christian prayer if it was something Buddhist or Hindu or whatever, would you still be ok with it?

If the argument is "a disrruption of the entertainment value" then the religion is the same thing.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Saints fans sues over protests A Saints fan is suing the team for the cost of his season tickets, because he said he was upset by player protests during the national anthem. But those protests may not have actually started at the time which he became so offended he decided to stop going to games. According to Chad Calder of the New Orleans Advocate, Lee Dragna of Morgan City, La. is suing the Saints for a refund of his season tickets, claiming the protests prevented him and his family from enjoying a game. One potential problem: The Saints may not have made any political statements at the game he attended, the home opener on Sept. 17 against the Patriots. Twitter read more from PFT Papa Voodoo likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints fans sues over protests the nfl is responsible for the action of visiting teams in the super dome. the saints are a franchise of the NFL thus can not avoid the responsibility. Nice try Mark but it does not hold water

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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Saints fans sues over protests He will lose. He should lose.
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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by Cruize He will lose. He should lose. Don’t bet on it. The right judge at the right time and this guys a millionaire. For crap sake look at all the rogue liberal judges doing what they want. This guy might get a vet.
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12-14-2017, 03:52 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by voodooido Don’t bet on it. The right judge at the right time and this guys a millionaire. For crap sake look at all the rogue liberal judges doing what they want. This guy might get a vet. Those rogue Judges are being phased out, thank God. Let's hope that continues. This guy has no case. He's wasting his money. Human evolution has slowed to a crawl...

12-13-2017, 07:07 AM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints fans sues over protests I know it sucks to be out some money, but tearing up the tickets and walking away would seem a lot less painful.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,490 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints fans sues over protests I would agree with this guy. He purchased the tickets to have his family entertained my given someone else's political views. There is a time and place for everything.

12-13-2017, 05:12 PM	#8
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by CheramieIII I would agree with this guy. He purchased the tickets to have his family entertained my given someone else's political views. There is a time and place for everything. Ok. I can see that argument. Did this fan also get upset about the religion that has been inserted in the game? If not, why? How is it different? You don't agree with one because you believe it is offensive. It takes away from the entertainment value. But, praying, praising God, whatever, that's OK because you don't find that offensive? How are the two different? I don't watch football for politics BUT I also don't watch to be preached at. ScottF likes this.

12-13-2017, 05:30 PM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by homerj07 Ok. I can see that argument. Did this fan also get upset about the religion that has been inserted in the game? If not, why? How is it different? You don't agree with one because you believe it is offensive. It takes away from the entertainment value. But, praying, praising God, whatever, that's OK because you don't find that offensive? How are the two different? I don't watch football for politics BUT I also don't watch to be preached at. Who is preaching to you? You want to know what the differences between the two things you mentioned are? One is a private matter that isn't stated in protest, and the other is something that entire teams are doing, and it has often been done in the middle of our National Anthem. You use the word religion, but there are a lot of different beliefs. As a Christian myself, I have a lot of problems with "religions" that pop up around the world. But if I see someone praying during a game, and I know he isn't a Christian, I am not offended. I would wish that the person were not praying to some pagan "god", or whatever else, but I believe in his right to have his religious freedom. It isn't something that is in your face, and making a political statement. Major difference.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-13-2017, 05:37 PM	#10
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by burningmetal Who is preaching to you? You want to know the difference between the two things you mentioned are? One is a private matter that isn't stated in protest, and the other is something that entire teams are doing, and it has often been done in the middle of our National Anthem. You use the word religion, but there are a lot of different beliefs. As a Christian myself, I have a lot of problems with "religions" that pop up around the world. But if I see someone praying during a game, and I know he isn't a Christian, I am not offended. I would wish that the person where not praying to some pagan "god", or whatever else, but I believe in his right to have his religious freedom. It isn't something that is in your face, and making a political statement. Major difference. NO... its not. And please don't pull the "As a Christian" - I am too. IF it wasn't Christian prayer if it was something Buddhist or Hindu or whatever, would you still be ok with it? If the argument is "a disrruption of the entertainment value" then the religion is the same thing. shawnkytonk likes this.

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