Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season

01-02-2018, 08:18 AM

So far as weapons, Brees has plenty; just because he doesn't have Graham doesn't mean he doesn't have enough weapons around him...

The big question mark is where is Willie Snead as he was the guy who always seem to come through on those 3rd downs we're no longer converting...

jeanpierre · 01-02-2018, 09:07 AM

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K Major · 01-02-2018, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So far as weapons, Brees has plenty; just because he doesn't have Graham doesn't mean he doesn't have enough weapons around him...

The big question mark is where is Willie Snead as he was the guy who always seem to come through on those 3rd downs we're no longer converting...

In the Tampa game, saw Willie open underneath a couple of times however Brees hit Ginn instead. Maybe Carolina will watch the film of this game & not "game plan" for Willie or Coleman for that matter.

If there is ever a game where we need to convert more 3rd downs & have Snead play a big part of it ... it must happen on Sunday.

Rugby Saint II · 01-03-2018, 03:48 PM

Drew could manage this team for several more years and I'm willing to pay top dollar fr it. He is the face of the franchise. You simply don't let that guy go!

burningmetal · 01-03-2018, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Drew could manage this team for several more years and I'm willing to pay top dollar fr it. He is the face of the franchise. You simply don't let that guy go!

Well you are certainly entitled to that opinion. But I see game managers around the league that I could get for a lot less. If I were to pay top dollar for a player, I expect top notch results, regardless of what his name is, or what the perception of him is.

It's a business, and I don't believe in paying for sentimental reasons. I might be in the minority on this board, but I've always been more of the type to look at production, and I don't get attached to players very much.

That's not to say Drew isn't capable. But I am firmly of the belief that players diminish at this age, not matter what they try to say about their nutrition. Nutrition might help your ticker, but it won't save you from bone crushing hits over a long career. But I guess none of this is really my problem anymore. It'll be what it'll be.

homerj07 · 01-03-2018, 09:39 PM

Sorry Drew brings more then just a game manager. He is the face of the Saints. Some of the money he, or any face of a franchise, does get paid for that.

For better or worse.

The jackass Ravens set the bar when they gave top dollar to that idiot QB Flacco. Then the bar got broken again and again.

Who would you rather have, that will be available, at QB for next year?

saintfan · 01-03-2018, 09:47 PM

An argument can be made, I think, that Peyton Manning was a game manager in his last year. We saw how that turned out.

And Drew Brees is a long long (really long) way from that.

burningmetal · 01-03-2018, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Sorry Drew brings more then just a game manager. He is the face of the Saints. Some of the money he, or any face of a franchise, does get paid for that.

For better or worse.

The jackass Ravens set the bar when they gave top dollar to that idiot QB Flacco. Then the bar got broken again and again.

Who would you rather have, that will be available, at QB for next year?

I don't follow the team, other than checking box scores anymore, so it's of no actual consequence to me, either way. I'm arguing from a matter of practicality, in how I see it.

Alex Smith will be available, and considering the comparison of how he and Brees both played this year, I might sign him, knowing he's cheaper and has a few less years of wear and tear. Now, if Drew wanted to take lesser money (I doubt that happens), then I'd stay with him a little longer. But I'm not willing to pay "face of the franchise" money, on reputation. Show me you're elite, and I'll pay you accordingly.

burningmetal · 01-03-2018, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

An argument can be made, I think, that Peyton Manning was a game manager in his last year. We saw how that turned out.

And Drew Brees is a long long (really long) way from that.

Peyton Manning was a broken down shell of himself, and got benched. There is being a game manager, and being bad. Peyton was bad by that point. They won a super bowl with defense.

Same way the 2000 Ravens won with Trent Dilfer and an all time great defense.

Drew proved to be a pretty good game manager this year. But is that worth elite money? I'd argue that no, it isn't. But I have no doubt that is what he'll get.

saintfan · 01-03-2018, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Peyton Manning was a broken down shell of himself, and got benched. There is being a game manager, and being bad. Peyton was bad by that point. They won a super bowl with defense.

Same way the 2000 Ravens won with Trent Dilfer and an all time great defense.

Drew proved to be a pretty good game manager this year. But is that worth elite money? I'd argue that no, it isn't. But I have no doubt that is what he'll get.

Just can't accept any comparison of Drew Brees as a game manager. I'll agree that Trent Dilfer was the all time great 'game manager'. This is not Drew Brees.

Or, aren't all QBs game managers? It can only matter then which is the best of the managers, and I'd rank Drew Brees as high on that list as I would have in 2009. Today.

But if you consider a 'game manager' to be some sort of 'lesser' abled QB, which is how I would use the term, then we will just have to agree to disagree.

01-02-2018, 08:18 AM	#21
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01-02-2018, 09:07 AM	#22
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01-02-2018, 09:13 AM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season Originally Posted by jeanpierre So far as weapons, Brees has plenty; just because he doesn't have Graham doesn't mean he doesn't have enough weapons around him... The big question mark is where is Willie Snead as he was the guy who always seem to come through on those 3rd downs we're no longer converting... In the Tampa game, saw Willie open underneath a couple of times however Brees hit Ginn instead. Maybe Carolina will watch the film of this game & not "game plan" for Willie or Coleman for that matter. If there is ever a game where we need to convert more 3rd downs & have Snead play a big part of it ... it must happen on Sunday.

01-03-2018, 03:48 PM	#24
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season Drew could manage this team for several more years and I'm willing to pay top dollar fr it. He is the face of the franchise. You simply don't let that guy go! saintfan and homerj07 like this.

01-03-2018, 08:39 PM	#25
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Drew could manage this team for several more years and I'm willing to pay top dollar fr it. He is the face of the franchise. You simply don't let that guy go! Well you are certainly entitled to that opinion. But I see game managers around the league that I could get for a lot less. If I were to pay top dollar for a player, I expect top notch results, regardless of what his name is, or what the perception of him is. It's a business, and I don't believe in paying for sentimental reasons. I might be in the minority on this board, but I've always been more of the type to look at production, and I don't get attached to players very much. That's not to say Drew isn't capable. But I am firmly of the belief that players diminish at this age, not matter what they try to say about their nutrition. Nutrition might help your ticker, but it won't save you from bone crushing hits over a long career. But I guess none of this is really my problem anymore. It'll be what it'll be.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season Sorry Drew brings more then just a game manager. He is the face of the Saints. Some of the money he, or any face of a franchise, does get paid for that. For better or worse. The jackass Ravens set the bar when they gave top dollar to that idiot QB Flacco. Then the bar got broken again and again. Who would you rather have, that will be available, at QB for next year?

01-03-2018, 09:47 PM	#27
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season An argument can be made, I think, that Peyton Manning was a game manager in his last year. We saw how that turned out. And Drew Brees is a long long (really long) way from that. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-03-2018, 10:04 PM	#28
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season Originally Posted by homerj07 Sorry Drew brings more then just a game manager. He is the face of the Saints. Some of the money he, or any face of a franchise, does get paid for that. For better or worse. The jackass Ravens set the bar when they gave top dollar to that idiot QB Flacco. Then the bar got broken again and again. Who would you rather have, that will be available, at QB for next year? I don't follow the team, other than checking box scores anymore, so it's of no actual consequence to me, either way. I'm arguing from a matter of practicality, in how I see it. Alex Smith will be available, and considering the comparison of how he and Brees both played this year, I might sign him, knowing he's cheaper and has a few less years of wear and tear. Now, if Drew wanted to take lesser money (I doubt that happens), then I'd stay with him a little longer. But I'm not willing to pay "face of the franchise" money, on reputation. Show me you're elite, and I'll pay you accordingly.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

01-03-2018, 10:07 PM	#29
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season Originally Posted by saintfan An argument can be made, I think, that Peyton Manning was a game manager in his last year. We saw how that turned out. And Drew Brees is a long long (really long) way from that. Peyton Manning was a broken down shell of himself, and got benched. There is being a game manager, and being bad. Peyton was bad by that point. They won a super bowl with defense. Same way the 2000 Ravens won with Trent Dilfer and an all time great defense. Drew proved to be a pretty good game manager this year. But is that worth elite money? I'd argue that no, it isn't. But I have no doubt that is what he'll get.

01-03-2018, 10:43 PM	#30
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Drew Brees regains NFL's record for completion percentage in a season Originally Posted by burningmetal Peyton Manning was a broken down shell of himself, and got benched. There is being a game manager, and being bad. Peyton was bad by that point. They won a super bowl with defense. Same way the 2000 Ravens won with Trent Dilfer and an all time great defense. Drew proved to be a pretty good game manager this year. But is that worth elite money? I'd argue that no, it isn't. But I have no doubt that is what he'll get. Just can't accept any comparison of Drew Brees as a game manager. I'll agree that Trent Dilfer was the all time great 'game manager'. This is not Drew Brees. Or, aren't all QBs game managers? It can only matter then which is the best of the managers, and I'd rank Drew Brees as high on that list as I would have in 2009. Today. But if you consider a 'game manager' to be some sort of 'lesser' abled QB, which is how I would use the term, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
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