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I held firm - an open letter

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal Nothing virtuous about my posts. I didn't mention anyone in here who isn't boycotting, and didn't bash anybody. You, on the other hand, seem to believe that being a fan above all other principles is virtuous, ...

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Old 01-15-2018, 09:54 AM   #1
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Nothing virtuous about my posts. I didn't mention anyone in here who isn't boycotting, and didn't bash anybody. You, on the other hand, seem to believe that being a fan above all other principles is virtuous, and you also believe that other fans can't be frustrated after a painful loss. We're all entitled to opinions. Disagree if you will. But the whole "you should never come back" that you said to someone in another thread, and now your comment to me, is where I take exception.

My opinion on the Saints is honest. I don't watch games, but I am aware of what is going on. I see sportscenter, I've seen highlights, I know the Saints players tendencies after years of watching many of them (did you think I forgot everything that quickly?). I also remember watching the Saints play the Vikings before my boycott began. I gave some thoughts on this matchup earlier in the week, and it looks like I wasn't exactly off base. Does that mean the Saints suck? No, that was your word that you tried to put in my mouth.

If you want to trash my take on what I've said, maybe you could tell me where I was proven wrong, and then we can have an adult conversation.

No I get it now. Your Saints boycott was so important you couldn’t resist reminding everyone on a SAINTS FORUM that you were still boycotting. But you won’t boycott from sharing your views on how poorly they play. Boy are we suckers for watching the Saints. Man I’m so glad you’re around to remind us all just how much better you are.
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:03 AM   #2
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No I get it now. Your Saints boycott was so important you couldn’t resist reminding everyone on a SAINTS FORUM that you were still boycotting. But you won’t boycott from sharing your views on how poorly they play. Boy are we suckers for watching the Saints. Man I’m so glad you’re around to remind us all just how much better you are.
You are really a pretty sad individual. I've gone back and forth with you in two threads, and you keep repeating the same lies. Not ONCE did I say I was better than anyone. I gave my opinion because of the subject of the OP (of which, I already stated in the other thread).

And also, as I have said to you multiple times, I didn't come in here to tell you how bad the Saints suck, or how poorly they played. Why are you making that up? Because it makes you feel better? Could it be *gasp* that you think YOU are superior to me? I don't much care to compare morals, virtues, or opinion eligibility with you. If I have an opinion, I'm going to state it. I wasn't wrong about my take on this matchup, and I never said anything other than pointing out weaknesses and where I thought it would be a problem.

If you're too insecure to handle that, this conversation is over.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:12 AM   #3
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No I get it now. Your Saints boycott was so important you couldn’t resist reminding everyone on a SAINTS FORUM that you were still boycotting. But you won’t boycott from sharing your views on how poorly they play. Boy are we suckers for watching the Saints. Man I’m so glad you’re around to remind us all just how much better you are.
On a semi-related note, I think I'm starting to learn a survival skill in today's world - more and more I'm thinking it's best to just watch the games I want to watch and pay little mind to all the drama and sports talk and conjecture. I am beginning to understand my fault in this.

Early in the season, I spent way too much mental energy on Sean Payton's coaching struggles and a few other issues surrounding the team. Likewise, as a Lakers fan I've paid too much attention to the LaVar Ball drama. By now I know I don't like the guy and that he's going to continue acting like a dip**** ... there's no point in reading about or wondering what the Lakers could/should do about it. The Lakers are big boys, they'll have to figure it out.

My focus going forward to keep my opinions brief and try to enjoy life more. And certainly I don't judge or begrudge any of you still actively supporting the Saints - everyone has their own hot buttons and opinions and ways of seeing things. Take care guys, don't let this thread get too negative.
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:29 AM   #4
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On a semi-related note, I think I'm starting to learn a survival skill in today's world - more and more I'm thinking it's best to just watch the games I want to watch and pay little mind to all the drama and sports talk and conjecture. I am beginning to understand my fault in this.

Early in the season, I spent way too much mental energy on Sean Payton's coaching struggles and a few other issues surrounding the team. Likewise, as a Lakers fan I've paid too much attention to the LaVar Ball drama. By now I know I don't like the guy and that he's going to continue acting like a dip**** ... there's no point in reading about or wondering what the Lakers could/should do about it. The Lakers are big boys, they'll have to figure it out.

My focus going forward to keep my opinions brief and try to enjoy life more. And certainly I don't judge or begrudge any of you still actively supporting the Saints - everyone has their own hot buttons and opinions and ways of seeing things. Take care guys, don't let this thread get too negative.
And I've kept my very limited posts/opinions about the Saints brief. Just a few observations and commentary. But apparently to some, that is bashing and I don't have a right to say anything. I didn't boycott the board.

But otherwise, I'm with you. Being away from watching the NFL has opened of a free space in my mind that was too occupied with things that don't matter. Yesterday would have been very painful in the old days for me. But now, it just is what it is. I'll miss some of the memories I've made watching the Saints, if I never watch them again, but things have gotten too ridiculous.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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And I've kept my very limited posts/opinions about the Saints brief. Just a few observations and commentary. But apparently to some, that is bashing and I don't have a right to say anything. I didn't boycott the board.

But otherwise, I'm with you. Being away from watching the NFL has opened of a free space in my mind that was too occupied with things that don't matter. Yesterday would have been very painful in the old days for me. But now, it just is what it is. I'll miss some of the memories I've made watching the Saints, if I never watch them again, but things have gotten too ridiculous.
Oh Waaaaaaa
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Oh Waaaaaaa
Please grow up. And, by the way, I don't believe you make the rules on who can comment. Why am I your target and not the OP, as well, if you hate it so much?
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