Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler?

TheOak · 02-05-2018, 04:29 PM

Butler was not benched, he played Special Teams in the first half. I find it difficult to believe that Belichick benching someone doesn't mean exactly that. Fully benched.

The way I understand it is that Butler was a healthy scratch on Defense because Bademosi practiced and game planned all week with the starters...

Papa Voodoo · 02-05-2018, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

If this is accurate, why even dress the guy? Why not leave him at home? Put him in street clothes. Bench him for a series or two. Was BB trying to embarrass the man on national TV? To shame him? Everyone not named Stephon Gilmore was skull drug last night on that defense.

Not sure what kind of statement Bill was trying to make in the most important football game on the season. You tell Rowe at the end of the National Anthem that he's starting? WTF? BB plan backfired.

Surely Malcolm could have helped that secondary last night.

No press to deal with until after the game.

NonieT · 02-05-2018, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We don't need Malcolm Butler coming late to meetings and missing flights while getting stoned in his room.

I'm not so sure I believe this because Belichick said it wasn't discipline related. If that's the case who put this on twitter?

AsylumGuido · 02-05-2018, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Butler was not benched, he played Special Teams in the first half. I find it difficult to believe that Belichick benching someone doesn't mean exactly that. Fully benched.

The way I understand it is that Butler was a healthy scratch on Defense because Bademosi practiced and game planned all week with the starters...

No. He played one snap from what they were saying on NFL Radio. And, you don't healthy scratch AND still be on the active roster. That makes no sense.

TheOak · 02-05-2018, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. He played one snap from what they were saying on NFL Radio. And, you don't healthy scratch AND still be on the active roster. That makes no sense.

Please pardon my misuse of terminology, 'healthy scratch' as in he wasn't hurt but wasn't allowed to play defense.

I watched the game, read a few articles, and listened to a 1/2 hour discussion on NFLSirius about it this morning.. he played special teams.

He also cried during the National Anthem, I figured he didnt play because it was something personal and his head wasn't right.

saintfan · 02-05-2018, 06:01 PM

We may never know, but there's BOUND to be more to the story.

If you ask me (and nobody has), I think Big Bill's ego wrote a check his 2nd string couldn't cash.

AsylumGuido · 02-05-2018, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Please pardon my misuse of terminology, 'healthy scratch' as in he wasn't hurt but wasn't allowed to play defense.

I watched the game, read a few articles, and listened to a 1/2 hour discussion on NFLSirius about it this morning.. he played special teams.

He also cried during the National Anthem, I figured he didnt play because it was something personal and his head wasn't right.

With the diligence of the media I am sure we will eventually find out the whole story, no matter how personal or invasive it may be. That is why I left the media field many years ago. I cared too much.

nola_swammi · 02-05-2018, 06:55 PM

The Saint was right for not trading for Butler. Butler is not a bad CB but he is no elite CB either. I feel the patriots chances of winning the SB would've been greater due to the depth of quality db's on their roster. As of now, Crawley and Williams are better than Butler in my opinion. I believe Butler is a physical and feisty CB that can be beat if you don't have support coverage from the safety.

I believe Breaux will be a saint next year. The saints will sign him to a 2nd rd tender. I feel for what happen to him at the SB but no need to break the bank to sign Butler.

nola_swammi · 02-05-2018, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We don't need Malcolm Butler coming late to meetings and missing flights while getting stoned in his room.

Where the proof on these statements? ESPN is reporting he flew in a day after the team cause he was in the hospital for the flu, no mention of using marijuana or late for meetings. I believe BB thought by doing what he done against Kyle Arrington by replacing him with Malcolm Butler would work in his favor by replacing Butler with Rowe. BB don't have any sympathy or loyality to his players, he did this before when he cut Tiquan Underwood the night before the super bowl

voodooido · 02-05-2018, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

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I think ward is a great player but I lost all respect when he sat the bowl game. Show so dedication. It lets me know he will sit for a new contract and probably the slightest injury

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? Butler was not benched, he played Special Teams in the first half. I find it difficult to believe that Belichick benching someone doesn't mean exactly that. Fully benched. The way I understand it is that Butler was a healthy scratch on Defense because Bademosi practiced and game planned all week with the starters...

02-05-2018, 04:33 PM	#22
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,628	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? Originally Posted by K Major If this is accurate, why even dress the guy? Why not leave him at home? Put him in street clothes. Bench him for a series or two. Was BB trying to embarrass the man on national TV? To shame him? Everyone not named Stephon Gilmore was skull drug last night on that defense. Not sure what kind of statement Bill was trying to make in the most important football game on the season. You tell Rowe at the end of the National Anthem that he's starting? WTF? BB plan backfired. Surely Malcolm could have helped that secondary last night. No press to deal with until after the game.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We don't need Malcolm Butler coming late to meetings and missing flights while getting stoned in his room. I'm not so sure I believe this because Belichick said it wasn't discipline related. If that's the case who put this on twitter? ScottF likes this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,386	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? Originally Posted by TheOak Butler was not benched, he played Special Teams in the first half. I find it difficult to believe that Belichick benching someone doesn't mean exactly that. Fully benched. The way I understand it is that Butler was a healthy scratch on Defense because Bademosi practiced and game planned all week with the starters... No. He played one snap from what they were saying on NFL Radio. And, you don't healthy scratch AND still be on the active roster. That makes no sense.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. He played one snap from what they were saying on NFL Radio. And, you don't healthy scratch AND still be on the active roster. That makes no sense. Please pardon my misuse of terminology, 'healthy scratch' as in he wasn't hurt but wasn't allowed to play defense. I watched the game, read a few articles, and listened to a 1/2 hour discussion on NFLSirius about it this morning.. he played special teams. He also cried during the National Anthem, I figured he didnt play because it was something personal and his head wasn't right.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? We may never know, but there's BOUND to be more to the story. If you ask me (and nobody has), I think Big Bill's ego wrote a check his 2nd string couldn't cash.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,386	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? Originally Posted by TheOak Please pardon my misuse of terminology, 'healthy scratch' as in he wasn't hurt but wasn't allowed to play defense. I watched the game, read a few articles, and listened to a 1/2 hour discussion on NFLSirius about it this morning.. he played special teams. He also cried during the National Anthem, I figured he didnt play because it was something personal and his head wasn't right. With the diligence of the media I am sure we will eventually find out the whole story, no matter how personal or invasive it may be. That is why I left the media field many years ago. I cared too much. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,626	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? The Saint was right for not trading for Butler. Butler is not a bad CB but he is no elite CB either. I feel the patriots chances of winning the SB would've been greater due to the depth of quality db's on their roster. As of now, Crawley and Williams are better than Butler in my opinion. I believe Butler is a physical and feisty CB that can be beat if you don't have support coverage from the safety. I believe Breaux will be a saint next year. The saints will sign him to a 2nd rd tender. I feel for what happen to him at the SB but no need to break the bank to sign Butler. saintfan likes this.

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nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,626	Re: Any news on what happened to Malcom Butler? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We don't need Malcolm Butler coming late to meetings and missing flights while getting stoned in his room. Where the proof on these statements? ESPN is reporting he flew in a day after the team cause he was in the hospital for the flu, no mention of using marijuana or late for meetings. I believe BB thought by doing what he done against Kyle Arrington by replacing him with Malcolm Butler would work in his favor by replacing Butler with Rowe. BB don't have any sympathy or loyality to his players, he did this before when he cut Tiquan Underwood the night before the super bowl

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