Manziel

The Dude · 02-14-2018, 12:36 PM

No way. Foles or Cousins. Although we can’t afford a contract for Brees and also the kind of money those guys are gonna ask for.

Still there was a guy who was a lot like Manziel who played for the Falcons until they kicked him to the curb for similar problems.

What was his name?

Crusader · 02-14-2018, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

I think the guy has his head on straight this time around. Of course there is still doubt about that, but I think he could be our QB of the future. I know 90% of people will think I'm crazy, but I think we should give him a look. It's the perfect situation really. Brees is probably the best leader in the NFL, and would be perfect for Manziel to learn under. Also, they are both short QBs .

Other than height there is no comparison between him and Brees whatsoever. Brees is so much better as a thrower its like comparing apples and spare tires.

dam1953 · 02-14-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Other than height there is no comparison between him and Brees whatsoever. Brees is so much better as a thrower its like comparing apples and spare tires.

Agree. Brees is probably the most accurate passer to ever play in the NFL. He also has an abundance of two other qualities absolutely required: 1) Intelligence and 2) Leadership. Not sure if Johnny was gifted with much of either....

saintfan · 02-14-2018, 12:54 PM

NFL QB: Only the strong-minded will survive.

Having said that, I'm absolutely a 2nd (and even 3rd) chance guy. We all do stupid things sometimes. Well, I mean "I" never have, but some of you thugs peg the needle.

K Major · 02-14-2018, 12:59 PM

Sort of off topic but I don't get the Baker Mayfield /Manziel comparisons either. Outside of height, these guys are far apart. Johnny B Good was all over the place with his footwork up in Cleveland & throwing it up for grabs.

Baker doesn't do any of that. Not a lot of stupid throws, unnecessary risks. He surveys the field then takes off when no other options (see Russell W).

I don't believe Manziel is NFL material ... or even a capable starter.

ScottF · 02-14-2018, 01:09 PM

Pass.
You don't fall of the face of the football earth and come back a few years later and become instantly successful, especially if you are a low-character guy to begin with.

best of luck.
If Vince McMahon calls, grab it on the first ring.

saintsfan1976 · 02-14-2018, 01:56 PM

Tebow's head is screwed on straighter than an arrow. He couldn't survive.

Rugby Saint II · 02-14-2018, 05:18 PM

He is not a team first person. When he walked out on stage at the draft he was rubbing his fingers and basically saying show me the money. He was spoiled and fell into a thug mentality. He never devoted himself before and I don't want to take the chance that this time he means it.

I don't want any part of Johnny Manziel!

subguy · 02-15-2018, 05:37 AM

Manziel living in New Orleans...a dangerous place for someone without self control

Garry42 · 02-15-2018, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

Manziel living in New Orleans...a dangerous place for someone without self control

Couldn't agree more....anyone that is a bit shaky to begin with may have problems in NOLA. There are temptations everywhere....but NOLA makes it very easy! JMHO

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02-14-2018, 12:49 PM	#2
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,045	Re: Manziel Originally Posted by hitta I think the guy has his head on straight this time around. Of course there is still doubt about that, but I think he could be our QB of the future. I know 90% of people will think I'm crazy, but I think we should give him a look. It's the perfect situation really. Brees is probably the best leader in the NFL, and would be perfect for Manziel to learn under. Also, they are both short QBs . Other than height there is no comparison between him and Brees whatsoever. Brees is so much better as a thrower its like comparing apples and spare tires. mleg1972, Barry from MS, dam1953 and 1 others like this.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Manziel Originally Posted by Crusader Other than height there is no comparison between him and Brees whatsoever. Brees is so much better as a thrower its like comparing apples and spare tires. Agree. Brees is probably the most accurate passer to ever play in the NFL. He also has an abundance of two other qualities absolutely required: 1) Intelligence and 2) Leadership. Not sure if Johnny was gifted with much of either.... Crusader, mleg1972, Barry from MS and 1 others like this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Manziel NFL QB: Only the strong-minded will survive. Having said that, I'm absolutely a 2nd (and even 3rd) chance guy. We all do stupid things sometimes. Well, I mean "I" never have, but some of you thugs peg the needle. mleg1972 likes this.

02-14-2018, 12:59 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Manziel Sort of off topic but I don't get the Baker Mayfield /Manziel comparisons either. Outside of height, these guys are far apart. Johnny B Good was all over the place with his footwork up in Cleveland & throwing it up for grabs. Baker doesn't do any of that. Not a lot of stupid throws, unnecessary risks. He surveys the field then takes off when no other options (see Russell W). I don't believe Manziel is NFL material ... or even a capable starter. jeanpierre likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Manziel Pass. You don't fall of the face of the football earth and come back a few years later and become instantly successful, especially if you are a low-character guy to begin with. best of luck. If Vince McMahon calls, grab it on the first ring. mleg1972, Rugby Saint II and dam1953 like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Manziel Tebow's head is screwed on straighter than an arrow. He couldn't survive. mleg1972 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Manziel He is not a team first person. When he walked out on stage at the draft he was rubbing his fingers and basically saying show me the money. He was spoiled and fell into a thug mentality. He never devoted himself before and I don't want to take the chance that this time he means it. I don't want any part of Johnny Manziel! mleg1972, Barry from MS, jeanpierre and 2 others like this.

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subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,103	Re: Manziel Manziel living in New Orleans...a dangerous place for someone without self control mleg1972, Barry from MS, Garry42 and 1 others like this.

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Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Re: Manziel Originally Posted by subguy Manziel living in New Orleans...a dangerous place for someone without self control Couldn't agree more....anyone that is a bit shaky to begin with may have problems in NOLA. There are temptations everywhere....but NOLA makes it very easy! JMHO

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