Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry

rezburna · 02-24-2018, 02:34 PM

Jarvis Landry ain’t worth a 1st. A 3rd this year and a 3rd next year sounds good to me.

K Major · 03-08-2018, 02:03 PM

Jarvis Landry signed his franchise tender – ProFootballTalk

saintfan · 03-08-2018, 04:15 PM

Rell&Gold · 03-08-2018, 06:50 PM

We are going to overpay somebody this off-season so why not let it be the safest bet? Rather than overpaying mediocre talent

Rsanders24 · 03-08-2018, 07:21 PM

The problem is that you have to give up a 1rd AND he is going to be looking for top 5 money. That’s too much to give up for a WR who is not a game breaker and would just be the #2 WR on our team. There are more reasonable options out there for a #2 as well as talent in the draft. As time has shown our offense can make just about any WR good or better. That money and picks could be better spent on a DE or OLB...

burningmetal · 03-08-2018, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

The problem is that you have to give up a 1rd AND he is going to be looking for top 5 money. That’s too much to give up for a WR who is not a game breaker and would just be the #2 WR on our team. There are more reasonable options out there for a #2 as well as talent in the draft. As time has shown our offense can make just about any WR good or better. That money and picks could be better spent on a DE or OLB...

Well, everyone has their opinions. I personally think Landry is a better player than Thomas. His problem has been that the Dolphins have used him in kind of a small ball type of role. They don't have confidence in their QB's to get the ball down the field, and they really haven't had anyone to draw attention away from Landry.

If you watch him on punt returns, you can see what kind of elusiveness he has. If you can get him the ball in space, he might not have elite speed, but he's going to make big plays with his quickness. And he has both elite hands AND route running. The draft will always give you the guys with the "measurables", but many are bad at route running, and have average to below average hands, and little toughness.

Rsanders24 · 03-08-2018, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Well, everyone has their opinions. I personally think Landry is a better player than Thomas. His problem has been that the Dolphins have used him in kind of a small ball type of role. They don't have confidence in their QB's to get the ball down the field, and they really haven't had anyone to draw attention away from Landry.

If you watch him on punt returns, you can see what kind of elusiveness he has. If you can get him the ball in space, he might not have elite speed, but he's going to make big plays with his quickness. And he has both elite hands AND route running. The draft will always give you the guys with the "measurables", but many are bad at route running, and have average to below average hands, and little toughness.

He is elusive and runs good routes but I would rather get a second tier or #2 in free agency than give up our 1st and play big money to Landry. We just don’t need to spend that kind of money and give up our 1st for a WR. We have shown over the last 12 seasons that we can plug and play. If he was a FA then maybe but given no up the draft pick and paying north of $10M is too much. I truly believe we have one of the best route teaching and technique teaching WRs coach in the league. I want a 6-2+ that can stretch the field and I see some in the draft that could come in and contribute that would cost a lot less. I believe we need to address the TE spot more than WR.

burningmetal · 03-08-2018, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

He is elusive and runs good routes but I would rather get a second tier or #2 in free agency than give up our 1st and play big money to Landry. We just don’t need to spend that kind of money and give up our 1st for a WR. We have shown over the last 12 seasons that we can plug and play. If he was a FA then maybe but given no up the draft pick and paying north of $10M is too much. I truly believe we have one of the best route teaching and technique teaching WRs coach in the league. I want a 6-2+ that can stretch the field and I see some in the draft that could come in and contribute that would cost a lot less. I believe we need to address the TE spot more than WR.

The problem with the plug and play has always been that the Saints don't do well against the better teams in the league. In the Saints best years they've had legitimate talent, and a dominant offensive line.

The last couple of years have seen the WR play (other than Thomas) struggle mightily, to the point that the Saints had to change their philosophy and become a running team.

As for as tight end goes, I guess it depends on what you want out of that position. I think if you have good WR's, you don't need to spend money or picks on pass catching tight ends. You just needs TE's who can block. Given the suprising emergence of ground game last year, I would think having TE's who can shore up the line of scrimmage would be a priority. Fleener (and the rumored Graham reunion) don't really provide that.

I completely get where you are coming from about not wanting to over pay. I'm just not convinced it will cost all that much in picks, and think the money wouldn't be unreasonable. But who knows.

WillSaints81 · 03-08-2018, 08:49 PM

What draft pick are we going to give them?

spkb25 · 03-09-2018, 04:54 AM

Man this offense would hum to a new level. Just make sure the oline is taken care of

02-24-2018, 02:34 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry Jarvis Landry ain’t worth a 1st. A 3rd this year and a 3rd next year sounds good to me. Rsanders24 likes this.

03-08-2018, 04:15 PM	#3
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03-08-2018, 07:21 PM	#5
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry The problem is that you have to give up a 1rd AND he is going to be looking for top 5 money. That’s too much to give up for a WR who is not a game breaker and would just be the #2 WR on our team. There are more reasonable options out there for a #2 as well as talent in the draft. As time has shown our offense can make just about any WR good or better. That money and picks could be better spent on a DE or OLB... SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

03-08-2018, 08:11 PM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry Originally Posted by Rsanders24 The problem is that you have to give up a 1rd AND he is going to be looking for top 5 money. That’s too much to give up for a WR who is not a game breaker and would just be the #2 WR on our team. There are more reasonable options out there for a #2 as well as talent in the draft. As time has shown our offense can make just about any WR good or better. That money and picks could be better spent on a DE or OLB... Well, everyone has their opinions. I personally think Landry is a better player than Thomas. His problem has been that the Dolphins have used him in kind of a small ball type of role. They don't have confidence in their QB's to get the ball down the field, and they really haven't had anyone to draw attention away from Landry. If you watch him on punt returns, you can see what kind of elusiveness he has. If you can get him the ball in space, he might not have elite speed, but he's going to make big plays with his quickness. And he has both elite hands AND route running. The draft will always give you the guys with the "measurables", but many are bad at route running, and have average to below average hands, and little toughness.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-08-2018, 02:03 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,829 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry Jarvis Landry signed his franchise tender – ProFootballTalk

03-08-2018, 08:56 PM	#7
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,493	Re: Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry Originally Posted by burningmetal Well, everyone has their opinions. I personally think Landry is a better player than Thomas. His problem has been that the Dolphins have used him in kind of a small ball type of role. They don't have confidence in their QB's to get the ball down the field, and they really haven't had anyone to draw attention away from Landry. If you watch him on punt returns, you can see what kind of elusiveness he has. If you can get him the ball in space, he might not have elite speed, but he's going to make big plays with his quickness. And he has both elite hands AND route running. The draft will always give you the guys with the "measurables", but many are bad at route running, and have average to below average hands, and little toughness. He is elusive and runs good routes but I would rather get a second tier or #2 in free agency than give up our 1st and play big money to Landry. We just don’t need to spend that kind of money and give up our 1st for a WR. We have shown over the last 12 seasons that we can plug and play. If he was a FA then maybe but given no up the draft pick and paying north of $10M is too much. I truly believe we have one of the best route teaching and technique teaching WRs coach in the league. I want a 6-2+ that can stretch the field and I see some in the draft that could come in and contribute that would cost a lot less. I believe we need to address the TE spot more than WR.

03-08-2018, 09:05 PM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry Originally Posted by Rsanders24 He is elusive and runs good routes but I would rather get a second tier or #2 in free agency than give up our 1st and play big money to Landry. We just don’t need to spend that kind of money and give up our 1st for a WR. We have shown over the last 12 seasons that we can plug and play. If he was a FA then maybe but given no up the draft pick and paying north of $10M is too much. I truly believe we have one of the best route teaching and technique teaching WRs coach in the league. I want a 6-2+ that can stretch the field and I see some in the draft that could come in and contribute that would cost a lot less. I believe we need to address the TE spot more than WR. The problem with the plug and play has always been that the Saints don't do well against the better teams in the league. In the Saints best years they've had legitimate talent, and a dominant offensive line. The last couple of years have seen the WR play (other than Thomas) struggle mightily, to the point that the Saints had to change their philosophy and become a running team. As for as tight end goes, I guess it depends on what you want out of that position. I think if you have good WR's, you don't need to spend money or picks on pass catching tight ends. You just needs TE's who can block. Given the suprising emergence of ground game last year, I would think having TE's who can shore up the line of scrimmage would be a priority. Fleener (and the rumored Graham reunion) don't really provide that. I completely get where you are coming from about not wanting to over pay. I'm just not convinced it will cost all that much in picks, and think the money wouldn't be unreasonable. But who knows.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-08-2018, 08:49 PM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry What draft pick are we going to give them?

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Saints Could Trade For Dolphins WR Jarvis Landry Man this offense would hum to a new level. Just make sure the oline is taken care of

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