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Per Ian Rapoport ... (take it for what it's worth).

Side note - Windham/Elias also has good conversation about safety (Bell, KVac etc) & DE play in 2017.

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Too rich. Plenty of talent available to be a slot/#2 like Moncreif, Gabriel (if he doesn’t go to SF) l, the guy from Seattle. We also have Fuller.

And that’s before we draft a stud TE

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Maybe they would take TA and our rd 1. Free up the cap to cover his contract and get rid of a often inured tackle. Wishful thinking of course.

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Jarvis is good and could run some of those old Snead routes, but not worth that money. Only way I could see this happening was if we were unloading a contract/player on them that no longer starts, to counteract some of the cost. But not sure if there is anyone on the team that fits that idea.

As for the need to have a TE. Its a definite need. However, if we had Jarvis to run under routes, Thomas for mid-deep, and Kamara coming out of backfield, we could just keep blocking TE's. Not saying that's the right move, but it could be something.

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Do they need a tight end? I would love to unload Fleener for him.

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I, for one, would love it. Having Michael Thomas and Jarvis Landry on the same offense would be ridiculous. Having those two AND Ingram and Kamara is just not fair to the rest of the league. I feel it would eliminate the perceived need for a pass catching TE. Dump Fleener and let the guys we have now keep doing what they do best, helping to open holes for our two pro bowl RB's.

I'd prefer it if we didn't have to give up a first, but I wouldn't hate it either. He's young and just entering his prime and would likely have way more impact than a rookie taken in the late first.

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Can't.
We're on the hook for 17 million regardless of where TA plays next year

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Put yourself in the shoes of Michael Thomas or Marshon Lattimore. How would you view the team over-paying for another player at your position?

I think we sign mid-level vets and draft well in 2018. The only position I could justify a big contract is middle linebacker.

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I’ve seen a few reporters saying that the Saints could be one of the teams interested in trading for Landry, but their great insight basically amounts to it being because he’s from Louisiana lol.

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Not happening fake news

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Love Free agency. We now have the opportunity to re-do two poor drafts when we could've taken WR Landry in the 2nd (vice CB SJB in 2014) and NT Danny Shelton (except he was taken just before we selected Peat in 2015).

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When I look at Landry's numbers I am puzzled. He has a ton of catches, but not the yardage. Can't really say it was all Cutler, the previous 3 seasons was rather low too. Known for his work ethics, seems to have decent speed, not sure about this guy.

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No first round picks unless they throw in a good CB or OL.

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You mean a player like Armstead?

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Jarvis Landry ain’t worth a 1st. A 3rd this year and a 3rd next year sounds good to me.

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I think if I were in their shoes, I'd just get over it. It's not like either of those players are going to lose their jobs. So is it about winning or is it about egos? If you let egos run a team, then you lose.

I can' imagine why any Saints fan would not want Jarvis Landry, as long as he doesn't cost you too many assets. He probably has the best hands in the league and while he isn't a burner, he has a lot more open field quickness than Thomas. He's played in a bad offense. I guarantee he'd blow it up with an actual NFL QB.

I don't believe the Saints have a reliable weapon at receiver other than Thomas, so why the heck should Thomas object?

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What I'm starting to gather is that a lot of folks want us to somehow win a Championship using coupons.

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Yeah, there has to be a limit for how much you pay, or how much you give up for one player. But you don't get anything for free. What I'm reading in this thread is some people seem to think Landry isn't worth giving up much of anything, and that he isn't a need for the team. I just don't get that.

You can plug in guys all day long, but that's all most of them will be... plugs. Jarvis Landry's don't grow on trees. I don't know, someone will probably criticize me for commenting on the Saints, but some of what I read just made me scratch my head.

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They come from the same place he came from, the draft.

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And they're all as good as him? Wow, everyone should go draft Jerry Rice and Joe Montana because, apparently, all you have to do is draft someone, and the rest is history.

How about a known commodity? Wouldn't you want that? If not, please explain why. The draft is always there, and you do what you can with it. But when you can get established players without breaking the bank or selling the farm, it's a good idea to take advantage of that.

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This is of course the quandry. Good established players are going to cost treasure in either dollars, personnel/picks, or both.

Draft picks on 5 year contracts are the only premium talent that doesn't break the bank. If you're not spending a ton of money, of giving up significant draft picks, then it's probably not premium talent.

SFIAH

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We are going to overpay somebody this off-season so why not let it be the safest bet? Rather than overpaying mediocre talent

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The problem is that you have to give up a 1rd AND he is going to be looking for top 5 money. That’s too much to give up for a WR who is not a game breaker and would just be the #2 WR on our team. There are more reasonable options out there for a #2 as well as talent in the draft. As time has shown our offense can make just about any WR good or better. That money and picks could be better spent on a DE or OLB...

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When you have a guy who doesn't have much left on his contract (franchise tag, in this case), you don't have as much leverage to get much for him. It would be something fairly significant, but it wouldn't likely involve multiple high draft choices. Maybe one first or second round pick, and possibly a third rounder added in.

The whole point of the Dolphins giving him the tag and then looking to deal him, is so that he doesn't just walk out on them for nothing. But given the high cost of the tag, I don't see the Dolphins being able to get a kings ransom in return.

If you're the Saints, or any other team, it's all about how much money you want to spend in a long term deal. And if you aren't willing to spend on a proven commodity, why be willing to draft a player in hopes that he MIGHT work out? And if the draft pick does work out, at some point you have to pay him. Building through the draft is essential to long term success, but you can't count on "hitting" on a high percentage of your draft picks every year. Given that Landry is also still young, he seems like a good gamble.

Also, the consensus among Saints fans seems to be that everything has to be done in Drew Brees' window. So if you have a decent foundation, it's time to expedite the process. Within reason, though. Landry seems like he would be a reasonable fit, to me. IF some team is willing to give the Dolphins a huge return, then that's their problem. My guess is that the market will pass on their initial demands, and that's when a negotiation could make sense for a team like the Saints.

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Well, everyone has their opinions. I personally think Landry is a better player than Thomas. His problem has been that the Dolphins have used him in kind of a small ball type of role. They don't have confidence in their QB's to get the ball down the field, and they really haven't had anyone to draw attention away from Landry.

If you watch him on punt returns, you can see what kind of elusiveness he has. If you can get him the ball in space, he might not have elite speed, but he's going to make big plays with his quickness. And he has both elite hands AND route running. The draft will always give you the guys with the "measurables", but many are bad at route running, and have average to below average hands, and little toughness.

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I wouldnt exactly say we would be "overpaying" for Landry. He has more catches over the past 3 years than any other WR.

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What draft pick are we going to give them?

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He is elusive and runs good routes but I would rather get a second tier or #2 in free agency than give up our 1st and play big money to Landry. We just don’t need to spend that kind of money and give up our 1st for a WR. We have shown over the last 12 seasons that we can plug and play. If he was a FA then maybe but given no up the draft pick and paying north of $10M is too much. I truly believe we have one of the best route teaching and technique teaching WRs coach in the league. I want a 6-2+ that can stretch the field and I see some in the draft that could come in and contribute that would cost a lot less. I believe we need to address the TE spot more than WR.

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The problem with the plug and play has always been that the Saints don't do well against the better teams in the league. In the Saints best years they've had legitimate talent, and a dominant offensive line.

The last couple of years have seen the WR play (other than Thomas) struggle mightily, to the point that the Saints had to change their philosophy and become a running team.

As for as tight end goes, I guess it depends on what you want out of that position. I think if you have good WR's, you don't need to spend money or picks on pass catching tight ends. You just needs TE's who can block. Given the suprising emergence of ground game last year, I would think having TE's who can shore up the line of scrimmage would be a priority. Fleener (and the rumored Graham reunion) don't really provide that.

I completely get where you are coming from about not wanting to over pay. I'm just not convinced it will cost all that much in picks, and think the money wouldn't be unreasonable. But who knows.

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Man this offense would hum to a new level. Just make sure the oline is taken care of

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Mike Evans just signed monster deal with Tampa. 5 years 82,5 mil, 55 mil gtd. Evans is way overrated. Physical corners can easily manhandle him.

Landry is more complete player. He is gonna get paid.

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Lattimore and Crawley completely blanketed him. At that price tag, he's extremely overrated. I won't complain though with Tampa continuing to make decisions like that.

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Well, Browns just traded 2 draft picks for Landry.

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Boooooooooooooo.

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Poor Jarvis.

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With that cap space they can afford to give him maybe even more money than what Mike Evans got.

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