Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 793718)

No. All he had to do wasn't just sign. Graham didn't want to play under the franchise tag. He wanted a contract. He was coerced into letting the NFLPA file a grievance on the franchise tag designation. This was something the PA had wanted to address and this was their first chance. By doing what they requested of him it did not hurt anyone. That is other than a number of soft-skinned fans that couldn't understand that this was a point of contention between the league and the PA that both sides wanted to resolve. All it did was postpone the deal that Graham was going to be getting anyway.

No, Graham wasn't a victim. There were no victims. It was simply a legal issue that hurt nobody. And where the heck are you getting this jail tripe? Yes, Jimmy knew what he was doing and why he was doing it. It is clear that you don't understand.

You are making it all too personal. Nobody did anything wrong. It is all just business. Lighten up.

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 793736)

See the parts in bold? You just lost the debate for yourself.

Again, NOBODY FORCED him to do anything. The choice was his and he knew exactly what he was doing - your words, and you're the self-proclaimed expert eh? Otherwise, what you call 'tripe' would be against the law, and thank you again for proving my point. The agent and the NFLPA forced Jimmy not to sign? Sir you need to get real.

What is clear is that the only person taking this personal is you sir. YOU are the one who, by your own admission read everything ever published on the internet on the subject. For me, this is just my football team, not my life.

We could have just agreed to disagree, but you won't let it go.

As for lightening up, I think a look in your mirror is in order sir.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 793741)

Yes, Graham had a choice but he made the choice...

Yes, he knew what he was doing...

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 793742)

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 793748)

Rather than acknowledge the rest of that...tripe...let's just stick to the part where you prove my point. Again.

My position is that Jimmy knew what he was doing and could have stopped it had he wanted to. Twice in your last two posts you agree. So what on earth are you still arguing for? Your position is that he was used as an unwitting pawn by the NFLPA. Your position is wrong. Jimmy controls Jimmy. Nobody else.

You keep proving me right. It's time to agree to disagree dude. The quickest way out of a hole is to stop digging bro.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 793754)

You misunderstood me. My point is JG had just signed a 4 year record breaking deal with his only team and was dealt the next season - to his shock, apparently to his QBs shock as well. As in no sign that he would have been dealt.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 793757)

The point is WHY should he have stopped it? What damage did it do? He got the exact same contract he would have received regardless.

What was there to stop? What was so terrible about a lawsuit to solve a legal loophole?

Why does it rile you so much. To be honest I enjoyed the legal play since I knew it meant nothing to me personally.

What is your issue?

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