2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day

04-27-2018, 11:01 PM

SmashMouth · 04-27-2018, 11:14 PM

Saints go OL next, IMHO.

jeanpierre · 04-27-2018, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Big playmaking receiver who catches everything thrown his way AND can take the top off the defense. 3rd down’s are his bread and butter. Absolutely great pick.

Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?

Rsanders24 · 04-27-2018, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Gotta admit I don't know much about him, I am liking what I'm seeing though. They're saying he's a project but that shouldn't be a problem this year. Hopefully he's ready to go year 2, we let Ginn walk and we run with a big, young WR corps.

It took a minute but this pick is starting to grow on me. He should get plenty of reps with Meredith slowly getting back in the mix and I feel he will contribute early with a little coaching from Coach CJ.

Barry from MS · 04-27-2018, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

Y'all might hate me for saying so, but this draft feels like garbage as far as value goes. Davenport for next yrs 1st regardless if its 1 or 32 is a huge risk considering how raw he is. I like this receiver, but raw as can be too. Coulda got him later.

Our coaches are in for alotta work with these 2. We're swinging for the fences, but looking like we hit ourselves in the back of the head with the bat.

Ill gladly eat crow if I'm wrong, but I get this sunken gut feeling we're reverting to a 2014-type class. Got the same feeling then. We'll see when the pads go on, though. We still have 4-7 rds & UDFAs to get a better feel.

SmashMouth · 04-27-2018, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?

I could see some of that... but in Ireland we trust? I never like trading up. Maybe Tre'Quan will be used like a TE?

saintfan · 04-27-2018, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?

Gil Brandt was praising the pick on the radio.

SmashMouth · 04-28-2018, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Gil Brandt was praising the pick on the radio.

K Major · 04-28-2018, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?

MarchingOn · 04-28-2018, 12:14 AM

Disappointed not in this WR in the 3rd but that we passed over DTs (Phillips) and Maurice Hurst.

Who cares about heart condition if we get 7 years or so from Maurice Hurst at his elite level of play? May not be able to afford to resign him then anyway.

He was available only because 32 teams group-thinked themselves outta an obvious great deal...like OT/OG L'ael Collins in the 7th recently.

For the chickens, just go for Phillips. We desperately need a NT or penetrating DT and we could've had one in the 3rd.

The value was in the 2nd round...should've traded down not up for our choice of TEs (except Hurst) then the DT in the 3rd. A trade down into the 2nd would net another 3rd to use on this WR (or Gallup).

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04-27-2018, 11:30 PM	#183
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Big playmaking receiver who catches everything thrown his way AND can take the top off the defense. 3rd down’s are his bread and butter. Absolutely great pick. Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on... What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body... He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40... While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body... His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks... One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates... But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best... Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available... As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years... And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy... Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago? nola_swammi and ChrisXVI like this.
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04-27-2018, 11:33 PM	#184
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by frydaddy Gotta admit I don't know much about him, I am liking what I'm seeing though. They're saying he's a project but that shouldn't be a problem this year. Hopefully he's ready to go year 2, we let Ginn walk and we run with a big, young WR corps. It took a minute but this pick is starting to grow on me. He should get plenty of reps with Meredith slowly getting back in the mix and I feel he will contribute early with a little coaching from Coach CJ. Thirty3 likes this.

04-27-2018, 11:55 PM	#185
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by jeanpierre As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years... Y'all might hate me for saying so, but this draft feels like garbage as far as value goes. Davenport for next yrs 1st regardless if its 1 or 32 is a huge risk considering how raw he is. I like this receiver, but raw as can be too. Coulda got him later. Our coaches are in for alotta work with these 2. We're swinging for the fences, but looking like we hit ourselves in the back of the head with the bat. Ill gladly eat crow if I'm wrong, but I get this sunken gut feeling we're reverting to a 2014-type class. Got the same feeling then. We'll see when the pads go on, though. We still have 4-7 rds & UDFAs to get a better feel. nola_swammi and jeanpierre like this.
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04-27-2018, 11:55 PM	#186
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by jeanpierre Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on... What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body... He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40... While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body... His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks... One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates... But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best... Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available... As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years... And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy... Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago? I could see some of that... but in Ireland we trust? I never like trading up. Maybe Tre'Quan will be used like a TE?

04-27-2018, 11:57 PM	#187
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by jeanpierre Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on... What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body... He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40... While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body... His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks... One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates... But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best... Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available... As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years... And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy... Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago? Gil Brandt was praising the pick on the radio.

04-28-2018, 12:01 AM	#188
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by saintfan Gil Brandt was praising the pick on the radio. saintfan and foreverfan like this.

04-28-2018, 12:04 AM	#189
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by jeanpierre Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on... What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body... He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40... While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body... His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks... One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates... But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best... Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available... As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years... And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy... Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago? saintfan, foreverfan, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

04-28-2018, 12:14 AM	#190
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Disappointed not in this WR in the 3rd but that we passed over DTs (Phillips) and Maurice Hurst. Who cares about heart condition if we get 7 years or so from Maurice Hurst at his elite level of play? May not be able to afford to resign him then anyway. He was available only because 32 teams group-thinked themselves outta an obvious great deal...like OT/OG L'ael Collins in the 7th recently. For the chickens, just go for Phillips. We desperately need a NT or penetrating DT and we could've had one in the 3rd. The value was in the 2nd round...should've traded down not up for our choice of TEs (except Hurst) then the DT in the 3rd. A trade down into the 2nd would net another 3rd to use on this WR (or Gallup). jeanpierre likes this.

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