2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day

04-28-2018, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

What will we do tomorrow?

K Major · 04-28-2018, 12:23 AM

I'm glad the Saints picked up another WR mid rounds. If Thomas ever goes down for an extended period, we're screwed. By all accounts Tre is athletic, good hands & his body of work says he's highly productive. Also has deceptive speed.

Most of us are playing checkers while Payton and Ireland are playing Chess.

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nola_swammi · 04-28-2018, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm glad the Saints picked up another WR mid rounds. If Thomas ever goes down for an extended period, we're screwed. By all accounts Tre is athletic, good hands & his body of work says he's highly productive. Also has deceptive speed.

https://twitter.com/RosterWatch/stat...56766502137857

Most of us are playing checkers while Payton and Ireland are playing Chess.

Oh how I hope you're right. Davenport scare me with the possibility of being a Courtney Brown. TreQuan, I can't see him on the depth chart challenging for a spot. This draft is reminiscent to after Goodell strip us of draft picks. I hope they haven't got complacent after the best draft ever.

ChrisXVI · 04-28-2018, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?

Always appreciate your evaluations JP! I’ve tried staying away from posting during the draft because I wanted to let everything sink in and not be too reactionary. I’m going to go back and look at the tape for everyone we draft plus our UDFA’s and maybe do some sort of recap with my take on everything.

spkb25 · 04-28-2018, 07:28 AM

Here's what I am taking from the Saints draft so far. We must feel really good about our defense as is, minus the left end spot. I don't know if that is accurate, but that must be what coaches think and feel.

Clearly we feel we have a need at wide receiver. I think all of us have thought we could add a player or two there, but I also felt we needed help at tight end. Fleecer has not got it done. Maybe this is his break out year and him and drew get on the same page.

I wonder if we will add a tight end, oline, and dt the rest of the draft?

I haven't been overly excited about this draft. Feel like we gave up too much for the move up and not sure in other drafts if that guy is a number 14. But I am also just a fan. If the coaches are that certain about the rest of our d then I have to give them the benefit of the doubt. If that guys pans out we could have a strong dline that gets after the QB, and it all starts up front

foreverfan · 04-28-2018, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm glad the Saints picked up another WR mid rounds. If Thomas ever goes down for an extended period, we're screwed. By all accounts Tre is athletic, good hands & his body of work says he's highly productive. Also has deceptive speed.

https://twitter.com/RosterWatch/stat...56766502137857

Most of us are playing checkers while Payton and Ireland are playing Chess.

Yes he is fast... but does he have more moves than Exlax?

jeanpierre · 04-28-2018, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I could see some of that... but in Ireland we trust? I never like trading up. Maybe Tre'Quan will be used like a TE?

The complicit local media reported that Ireland and his staff set the boards "North and South" and then Payton and Loomis move them "East and West"...

Beastmode · 04-28-2018, 09:39 AM

He said speed is not his game. All about fighting for it in the air deep. Makes sense. Brees does float them out there but gonna be hard breaking into this WR group.

spkb25 · 04-28-2018, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Saints are gonna have some BIG WR's in 2018.

reminds you of colston, devery, and Meach

All fairly big guys that could also block down the field

K Major · 04-28-2018, 12:09 PM

Today (day 3) is a big day to select a solid Pro prospect.

More than 50% of NFL rosters are compiled of 3rd day players.

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04-28-2018, 12:23 AM	#192
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day I'm glad the Saints picked up another WR mid rounds. If Thomas ever goes down for an extended period, we're screwed. By all accounts Tre is athletic, good hands & his body of work says he's highly productive. Also has deceptive speed. Twitter Most of us are playing checkers while Payton and Ireland are playing Chess. foreverfan likes this.

04-28-2018, 04:26 AM	#193
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by K Major I'm glad the Saints picked up another WR mid rounds. If Thomas ever goes down for an extended period, we're screwed. By all accounts Tre is athletic, good hands & his body of work says he's highly productive. Also has deceptive speed. https://twitter.com/RosterWatch/stat...56766502137857 Most of us are playing checkers while Payton and Ireland are playing Chess. Oh how I hope you're right. Davenport scare me with the possibility of being a Courtney Brown. TreQuan, I can't see him on the depth chart challenging for a spot. This draft is reminiscent to after Goodell strip us of draft picks. I hope they haven't got complacent after the best draft ever.

04-28-2018, 06:12 AM	#194
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by jeanpierre Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on... What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body... He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40... While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body... His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks... One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates... But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best... Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available... As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years... And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy... Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago? Always appreciate your evaluations JP! I’ve tried staying away from posting during the draft because I wanted to let everything sink in and not be too reactionary. I’m going to go back and look at the tape for everyone we draft plus our UDFA’s and maybe do some sort of recap with my take on everything. jeanpierre likes this.

04-28-2018, 07:28 AM	#195
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Here's what I am taking from the Saints draft so far. We must feel really good about our defense as is, minus the left end spot. I don't know if that is accurate, but that must be what coaches think and feel. Clearly we feel we have a need at wide receiver. I think all of us have thought we could add a player or two there, but I also felt we needed help at tight end. Fleecer has not got it done. Maybe this is his break out year and him and drew get on the same page. I wonder if we will add a tight end, oline, and dt the rest of the draft? I haven't been overly excited about this draft. Feel like we gave up too much for the move up and not sure in other drafts if that guy is a number 14. But I am also just a fan. If the coaches are that certain about the rest of our d then I have to give them the benefit of the doubt. If that guys pans out we could have a strong dline that gets after the QB, and it all starts up front jeanpierre likes this.
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04-28-2018, 07:38 AM	#196
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by K Major I'm glad the Saints picked up another WR mid rounds. If Thomas ever goes down for an extended period, we're screwed. By all accounts Tre is athletic, good hands & his body of work says he's highly productive. Also has deceptive speed. https://twitter.com/RosterWatch/stat...56766502137857 Most of us are playing checkers while Payton and Ireland are playing Chess. Yes he is fast... but does he have more moves than Exlax?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by SmashMouth I could see some of that... but in Ireland we trust? I never like trading up. Maybe Tre'Quan will be used like a TE? The complicit local media reported that Ireland and his staff set the boards "North and South" and then Payton and Loomis move them "East and West"...
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day He said speed is not his game. All about fighting for it in the air deep. Makes sense. Brees does float them out there but gonna be hard breaking into this WR group.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day Originally Posted by K Major Saints are gonna have some BIG WR's in 2018. reminds you of colston, devery, and Meach All fairly big guys that could also block down the field

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