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LordOfEntropy · 04-28-2005, 03:44 PM

Hay, smitty, thnx four kleereng that upp phour mi... i kneed help sumtimez.

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TheDeuce · 04-28-2005, 03:45 PM

Anyway, that was not the point of the post... it was to merely point out that the wonderlic the NFL prospects get is not meant to test intelligence

Yes it is. I listened to an interview with Brown right after he was drafted and the reporters were asking him why he did so poorly on his Wonderlic test and he said it was because it was stuff that had nothing to do with football. He even gave an example that went something like this: Jim is 20 years old. If Mary is 5 years younger than Jim, then Jim gets older...........
So yes its an intelligence test. And yes, Brown is porbably a huge moron. But yes, I\'m glad he\'s on our team because he doesn\'t need to know how old Jim is to dominate Julius Peppers.

[Edited on 28/4/2005 by TheDeuce]

GumboBC · 04-28-2005, 03:49 PM

I REALLY don\'t care what anyone thinks about the \'wonderic\' test.

We\'ve had this discussion about 500-times over the past few years.

Many articles have been posted concerning about what the \'wonderlic\' test is designed for.

Mr Charlie Wonderlic, in an earlier article, stated that the \'wonderlic\' test is NOT designed to test intelligence.

Furthermore ... there\'s not just ONE wonderlic test. The test is changed depending on what they want to test for.

It\'s basically designed to fit the job the candidate is applying for.

[Edited on 28/4/2005 by GumboBC]

Danno · 04-28-2005, 03:53 PM

And yes, Brown is porbably a huge moron.

:rollinglaugh:

ssmitty · 04-28-2005, 03:56 PM

Hay, smitty, thnx four kleereng that upp phour mi... i kneed help sumtimez.

... thwap thwap boom tch boom tch swish thump ....

no problemo amigo.............
YOU NEED ME ON THAT WALL...................
smitty

Saint_LB · 04-28-2005, 04:08 PM

11. In printing an article of 48,000 words, a printer decides to use two sizes of type. Using the larger type, a printed page contains 1,800 words. Using smaller type, a page contains 2,400 words. The article is allotted 21 full pages in a magazine. How many pages must be in smaller type?

13. Three individuals form a partnership and agree to divide the profits equally. X invests $9,000, Y invests $7,000, Z invests $4,000. If the profits are $4,800, how much less does X receive than if the profits were divided in proportion to the amount invested?

I will admit that most of these questions are easy, but these two, especially the first one, seem to be questions that would slow someone down...unless I am just a moron and everyone else figured these out without much trouble.

Also, I wonder if the players are allowed to use a calculator when taking this test?

ssmitty · 04-28-2005, 04:14 PM

first one................zip

Danno · 04-28-2005, 04:31 PM

first one................zip

I get 4?

neodarkside · 04-28-2005, 04:39 PM

I just found this on a site.... (god this will be a long post...)

Name
Year
College
Wonderlic
Actual Draft Order

Manning, Eli
2004
Mississippi
39
1 (1st overall)

Krenzel, Craig
2004
Ohio State
38
7 (148th overall)

Losman, J.P.
2004
Tulane
31, 14
4 (22nd overall)

Rivers, Philip
2004
NC State
30
2 (4th overall)

Schaub, Matt
2004
Virginia
30
5 (90th overall)

Roethlisberger, Ben
2004
Miami-OH
25
3 (11th overall)

Navarre, John
2004
Michigan
24
12 (202nd overall)

McCown, Luke
2004
La Tech
24, 20
6 (106th overall)

Henson, Drew
2003
Michigan
42

Grossman, Rex
2003
Florida
29

Boller, Kyle
2003
California
27

Palmer , Carson
2003
USC
26

Leftwich, Byron
2003
Marshall
25

Dorsey, Ken
2003
Miami
25

Simms, Chris
2003
Texas
22

Banks, Brad
2003
Iowa
13

Wallace, Seneca
2003
Iowa State
12

O\'Sullivan, J.T.
2002
Calif.-Davis
35

Harrington, Joey
2002
Oregon
32

Ramsey, Patrick
2002
Tulane
32

Kittner, Kurt
2002
Illinois
31

Nall, Craig
2002
Northwestern St.
31

McCown, Josh
2002
Sam Houston
30

Carr, David
2002
Fresno State
24

Davey, Rohan
2002
LSU
17

Carter, Quincy
2001
Georgia
30

Brees, Drew
2001
Purdue
28

McMahon, Mike
2001
Rutgers
27

Booty, Josh
2001
LSU
27

Hasselbeck, Tim
2001
Boston College
23

Vick, Michael
2001
Virginia Tech
20

Feeley, A.J.
2001
Oregon
19

Brady, Tom
2000
Michigan
33

Pennington, Chad
2000
Marshall
25

Bulger, Marc
2000
West Virginia
29
Bulger\'s score has been verified by Howard Balzer, editor of USA Sports Weekly

McNown, Cade
1999
UCLA
28

Smith, Akili
1999
Oregon
37, 15
Many suspect Smith of cheating because he showed such improvement.

King, Shaun
1999
Tulane
25

Huard, Brock
1999
Washington
25

Couch, Tim
1999
Kentucky
22

Culpepper, Daunte
1999
Central Fla.
18, 21, 15
Culpepper, who was administered the test three times, had a high of 21 and a low of 15. Because of his academic struggles even to gain admittance to a four-year institution, some teams think the 15 is more realistic.

Brooks, Aaron
1999
Virginia
17

McNabb, Donovan
1999
Syracuse
16, 12

Griese, Brian
1998
Michigan
39

Hasselbeck, Matt
1998
Boston College
29

Collins, Kerry
1995
Penn State
30

McNair, Steve
1995
Alcorn State
15

Stewart, Kordell
1995
Colorado
12

Bledsoe, Drew
1993
Wash. State
37

Brunell, Mark
1993
Washington
22

Grbac, Elvis
1993
Michigan
16

Blake, Jeff
1992
East Carolina
17

Favre, Brett
1991
Southern Miss.
22

O\'Donnell, Neil
1990
Maryland
13

George, Jeff
1990
Illinois
10

Aikman, Troy
1989
UCLA
29

Tolliver, Billy Joe
1989
Texas Tech
24

Testaverde, Vinny
1987
Miami
18

Cunningham, Randall
1985
UNLV
15

Marino, Dan
1983
Pittsburgh
14

Young, Steve
1982
BYU
33

Link can be found here..
http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm

Interesting stuff..specially with Culpepper and Akili Smith

Danno · 04-28-2005, 04:44 PM

Yep, stupid test, meaningless results.

04-28-2005, 03:44 PM	#41
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	brown-wonderlic score-12 Hay, smitty, thnx four kleereng that upp phour mi... i kneed help sumtimez. ... thwap thwap boom tch boom tch swish thump ....

04-28-2005, 03:45 PM	#42
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	brown-wonderlic score-12 Anyway, that was not the point of the post... it was to merely point out that the wonderlic the NFL prospects get is not meant to test intelligence Yes it is. I listened to an interview with Brown right after he was drafted and the reporters were asking him why he did so poorly on his Wonderlic test and he said it was because it was stuff that had nothing to do with football. He even gave an example that went something like this: Jim is 20 years old. If Mary is 5 years younger than Jim, then Jim gets older........... So yes its an intelligence test. And yes, Brown is porbably a huge moron. But yes, I\'m glad he\'s on our team because he doesn\'t need to know how old Jim is to dominate Julius Peppers. [Edited on 28/4/2005 by TheDeuce]
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04-28-2005, 03:49 PM	#43
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	brown-wonderlic score-12 I REALLY don\'t care what anyone thinks about the \'wonderic\' test. We\'ve had this discussion about 500-times over the past few years. Many articles have been posted concerning about what the \'wonderlic\' test is designed for. Mr Charlie Wonderlic, in an earlier article, stated that the \'wonderlic\' test is NOT designed to test intelligence. Furthermore ... there\'s not just ONE wonderlic test. The test is changed depending on what they want to test for. It\'s basically designed to fit the job the candidate is applying for. [Edited on 28/4/2005 by GumboBC]
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04-28-2005, 03:53 PM	#44
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	brown-wonderlic score-12 And yes, Brown is porbably a huge moron. :rollinglaugh:

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Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	brown-wonderlic score-12 11. In printing an article of 48,000 words, a printer decides to use two sizes of type. Using the larger type, a printed page contains 1,800 words. Using smaller type, a page contains 2,400 words. The article is allotted 21 full pages in a magazine. How many pages must be in smaller type? 13. Three individuals form a partnership and agree to divide the profits equally. X invests $9,000, Y invests $7,000, Z invests $4,000. If the profits are $4,800, how much less does X receive than if the profits were divided in proportion to the amount invested? I will admit that most of these questions are easy, but these two, especially the first one, seem to be questions that would slow someone down...unless I am just a moron and everyone else figured these out without much trouble. Also, I wonder if the players are allowed to use a calculator when taking this test?
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04-28-2005, 04:39 PM	#49
neodarkside Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10	brown-wonderlic score-12 I just found this on a site.... (god this will be a long post...) Name Year College Wonderlic Actual Draft Order Manning, Eli 2004 Mississippi 39 1 (1st overall) Krenzel, Craig 2004 Ohio State 38 7 (148th overall) Losman, J.P. 2004 Tulane 31, 14 4 (22nd overall) Rivers, Philip 2004 NC State 30 2 (4th overall) Schaub, Matt 2004 Virginia 30 5 (90th overall) Roethlisberger, Ben 2004 Miami-OH 25 3 (11th overall) Navarre, John 2004 Michigan 24 12 (202nd overall) McCown, Luke 2004 La Tech 24, 20 6 (106th overall) Henson, Drew 2003 Michigan 42 Grossman, Rex 2003 Florida 29 Boller, Kyle 2003 California 27 Palmer , Carson 2003 USC 26 Leftwich, Byron 2003 Marshall 25 Dorsey, Ken 2003 Miami 25 Simms, Chris 2003 Texas 22 Banks, Brad 2003 Iowa 13 Wallace, Seneca 2003 Iowa State 12 O\'Sullivan, J.T. 2002 Calif.-Davis 35 Harrington, Joey 2002 Oregon 32 Ramsey, Patrick 2002 Tulane 32 Kittner, Kurt 2002 Illinois 31 Nall, Craig 2002 Northwestern St. 31 McCown, Josh 2002 Sam Houston 30 Carr, David 2002 Fresno State 24 Davey, Rohan 2002 LSU 17 Carter, Quincy 2001 Georgia 30 Brees, Drew 2001 Purdue 28 McMahon, Mike 2001 Rutgers 27 Booty, Josh 2001 LSU 27 Hasselbeck, Tim 2001 Boston College 23 Vick, Michael 2001 Virginia Tech 20 Feeley, A.J. 2001 Oregon 19 Brady, Tom 2000 Michigan 33 Pennington, Chad 2000 Marshall 25 Bulger, Marc 2000 West Virginia 29 Bulger\'s score has been verified by Howard Balzer, editor of USA Sports Weekly McNown, Cade 1999 UCLA 28 Smith, Akili 1999 Oregon 37, 15 Many suspect Smith of cheating because he showed such improvement. King, Shaun 1999 Tulane 25 Huard, Brock 1999 Washington 25 Couch, Tim 1999 Kentucky 22 Culpepper, Daunte 1999 Central Fla. 18, 21, 15 Culpepper, who was administered the test three times, had a high of 21 and a low of 15. Because of his academic struggles even to gain admittance to a four-year institution, some teams think the 15 is more realistic. Brooks, Aaron 1999 Virginia 17 McNabb, Donovan 1999 Syracuse 16, 12 Griese, Brian 1998 Michigan 39 Hasselbeck, Matt 1998 Boston College 29 Collins, Kerry 1995 Penn State 30 McNair, Steve 1995 Alcorn State 15 Stewart, Kordell 1995 Colorado 12 Bledsoe, Drew 1993 Wash. State 37 Brunell, Mark 1993 Washington 22 Grbac, Elvis 1993 Michigan 16 Blake, Jeff 1992 East Carolina 17 Favre, Brett 1991 Southern Miss. 22 O\'Donnell, Neil 1990 Maryland 13 George, Jeff 1990 Illinois 10 Aikman, Troy 1989 UCLA 29 Tolliver, Billy Joe 1989 Texas Tech 24 Testaverde, Vinny 1987 Miami 18 Cunningham, Randall 1985 UNLV 15 Marino, Dan 1983 Pittsburgh 14 Young, Steve 1982 BYU 33 Link can be found here.. http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm Interesting stuff..specially with Culpepper and Akili Smith
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04-28-2005, 04:44 PM	#50
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	brown-wonderlic score-12 Yep, stupid test, meaningless results.