Fleener Dead Cap

Papa Voodoo · 05-07-2018, 04:14 PM

I hope Woz pans out. Watson and Curtis J. should teach him a lot.

spkb25 · 05-07-2018, 05:57 PM

Ohp looks like I'm late to the party with my fleecer post. Good decision

neugey · 05-07-2018, 06:07 PM

Coby clearly was not Kobe for us!

CharityMike · 05-07-2018, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Coby clearly was not Kobe for us!

Nice lol

TheOak · 05-07-2018, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Trying to make sense out of this statement. If Fleener is released the cap hit is $8.2 million regardless of release date. Either all in 2018 or $3.2 million carried over to the 2019 cap. So you are trying to say that his vacated roster spot would be worth $8.2 million in dead cap PLUS whatever contracted amount is allocated to his replacement, correct? That would only make sense if his replacement was worth more on the field than Fleener's dead cap hit PLUS whatever contracted amount said replacement commands.

Therefore, to make this worthwhile he would have to be markedly better than Fleener and additionally better than any other player his additionally allocated salary also offset.

Sorry, that makes no financial sense and is exactly why it won't happen. Flleener isn't going anywhere this season, like it or not.

I said 'roster spot', not replacement... huge difference. Roster spot can be a RB if someone goes down, or OL. Is his place on the 53 better served being occupied by a an overpaid TE or a fill in for any replacement player at a position of need?

As far as your comment on financial sense... You mean like Byrds contract? What you are saying is "exactly why it wont happen" is exactly what they did with Will Smith except Smith was 8.5M, perhaps resurrecting the hit from Junior Gallette's release will resonate.

I made no statements about liking or not liking anything, I just provided the math and a comment. Take a breath, its Fleener, nothing personal.

TheOak · 05-07-2018, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Flleener isn't going anywhere this season, like it or not.

Umm... I just saw this. How do you like your pie?

Saints release Coby Fleener – ProFootballTalk

TheOak · 05-07-2018, 07:41 PM

In the future if anyone wants to know what a cut will cost us just go to the players spotrac page (OTC has the same functionality, I just prefer spotrac), fid the "x" on the right hand column and click it, this will reveal their cut details.
Coby Fleener Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

05-07-2018, 04:14 PM	#31
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Fleener Dead Cap I hope Woz pans out. Watson and Curtis J. should teach him a lot.

05-07-2018, 05:57 PM	#32
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Fleener Dead Cap Ohp looks like I'm late to the party with my fleecer post. Good decision Halo likes this.

05-07-2018, 06:07 PM	#33
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Fleener Dead Cap Coby clearly was not Kobe for us! Halo and CharityMike like this.

05-07-2018, 06:48 PM	#34
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Fleener Dead Cap Originally Posted by neugey Coby clearly was not Kobe for us! Nice lol

05-07-2018, 07:34 PM	#35
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Fleener Dead Cap Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Trying to make sense out of this statement. If Fleener is released the cap hit is $8.2 million regardless of release date. Either all in 2018 or $3.2 million carried over to the 2019 cap. So you are trying to say that his vacated roster spot would be worth $8.2 million in dead cap PLUS whatever contracted amount is allocated to his replacement, correct? That would only make sense if his replacement was worth more on the field than Fleener's dead cap hit PLUS whatever contracted amount said replacement commands. Therefore, to make this worthwhile he would have to be markedly better than Fleener and additionally better than any other player his additionally allocated salary also offset. Sorry, that makes no financial sense and is exactly why it won't happen. Flleener isn't going anywhere this season, like it or not. I said 'roster spot', not replacement... huge difference. Roster spot can be a RB if someone goes down, or OL. Is his place on the 53 better served being occupied by a an overpaid TE or a fill in for any replacement player at a position of need? As far as your comment on financial sense... You mean like Byrds contract? What you are saying is "exactly why it wont happen" is exactly what they did with Will Smith except Smith was 8.5M, perhaps resurrecting the hit from Junior Gallette's release will resonate. I made no statements about liking or not liking anything, I just provided the math and a comment. Take a breath, its Fleener, nothing personal.
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05-07-2018, 07:35 PM	#36
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Fleener Dead Cap Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Flleener isn't going anywhere this season, like it or not. Umm... I just saw this. How do you like your pie? Saints release Coby Fleener – ProFootballTalk

05-07-2018, 07:41 PM	#37
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Fleener Dead Cap In the future if anyone wants to know what a cut will cost us just go to the players spotrac page (OTC has the same functionality, I just prefer spotrac), fid the "x" on the right hand column and click it, this will reveal their cut details. Coby Fleener Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses \| Spotrac

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