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08-18-2018, 03:09 AM | #2 |
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Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals
BY JOEL A. ERICKSON | JERICKSON@THEADVOCATE.COM AUG 17, 2018 - 10:00 PM
The New Orleans Saints gave a lot of young players a chance to prove their promise in the first half of Friday night's preseason game against the Arizona Cardinals. A few rose to the challenge, but a player who had generated his fair share of preseason hype faltered. Offered his first chance to start an NFL preseason game, second-year quarterback Taysom Hill failed to protect the ball against Arizona's starting defense, and the rest of the Saints offense sputtered behind him in a 20-15 loss in the Mercedes-Benz Superdome. “I think it was a tough night for him," Saints coach Sean Payton said. "I think he'll rebound and be better.” Based on the playing-time patterns, New Orleans (1-1) headed into Friday night's preseason game hoping to get a closer look at young players who had flashed a glimpse of something special so far, whether in training camp practices or the preseason opener against Jacksonville. For example, third-year running back Jonathan Williams was given the first chance to carry the ball after veteran Mark Ingram — second-year star Alvin Kamara was held out of Friday night's game — in recognition of his impressive performance in the fourth quarter against the Jaguars last week. Williams, who is battling with veterans Terrance West and Shane Vereen, plus rookie Boston Scott, for the chance to fill in for Ingram while the veteran serves a four-game suspension for violating the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing drugs to start the season, rose to the challenge. Offered carries early and often, Williams ripped off a 19-yard run early, converted a key fourth down in the third quarter and finished with 37 yards on eight carries. On the other side of the ball, second-year defensive tackle Devaroe Lawrence backed up his surprising two-sack performance in the second half against the Jaguars by flashing again, this time against Arizona's starting offensive line and second-teamers. Lawrence picked up two tackles, recorded a tackle-for-loss and batted a pass, all while putting consistent pressure on Arizona's precocious rookie quarterback, Josh Rosen. Hill wasn't able to make the same kind of impression. Handed a chance to take on Arizona's starters by the team's decision to hold Drew Brees out of action, Hill was picked off on his first series when veteran receiver Cameron Meredith dropped a pass over the middle, and it got worse from there. Hill completed 11-of-15 passes for 68 yards and rushed three times for 43 yards, but he tossed two interceptions, lost two fumbles and nearly lost another, and nearly all of his passing yards came on the final drive of the first half. Before that series, Hill was 6-of-10 for a paltry 13 yards. Arizona (2-0), on the other hand, bounced back from a pair of early stops by the Saints' starting defense to post 17 points in the first half, with touchdowns by star running back David Johnson and a gorgeous touchdown pass from Rosen to Christian Kirk. Hill, who is also considered a core special-teamer by the Saints and has a good chance to make the 53-man roster even if he's not the primary backup to Brees, gave way to veteran Tom Savage at the half. Savage, the favorite for the backup job entering the game, completed 6-of-7 passes for 53 yards, but he also took three sacks and failed to get the ball in the end zone as the Saints settled for three Wil Lutz field goals. New Orleans didn't score a touchdown until undrafted rookie J.T. Barrett scrambled in from 12 yards out with 20 seconds left in the game. After two uninspiring performances by Savage and Hill to start the preseason, the Saints will now gear up for a trip to Los Angeles this week for joint practices against the Chargers and the all-important third preseason game, a chance for one of the backups to rise to the occasion and make the right impression. |
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08-18-2018, 08:04 AM | #3 |
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Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals
He has the arm. He is athletically gifted. But, he's frantic in the pocket. The Saints should be on the phone with the Jets.
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08-18-2018, 08:20 AM | #4 |
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Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals
He doesn't look anywhere close to being an NFL QB. Seems very confused and unsure of himself when he doesn't run the ball. Agree that he seems to have the tools, but will be a long work in progress.
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Why can’t he execute play-action without fumbling?
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Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals
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I don't like this reasoning. There are a lot of special team guys who aren't a liability at their designated position. At this point, I would take Barrett over Hill. |
08-18-2018, 09:29 AM | #7 |
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Falters is putting it nicely, he was atrocious.
Fumbles trying to execute a play action, stares down receivers, overthrows a wide open Michael Thomas and only completes passes to curl routes. |
08-18-2018, 09:59 AM | #8 |
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Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals
J.T. has played against 3rd string defenses, but there is a calming presence he brings to the offense. I was impressed with the accuracy of that 2 point try drop by Griffin. Barrett threw a perfect ball.
J.T. isn't ready for 1s, but I can see him developing into a Tyrod Taylor/Sam Bradford type in regards of not turning the ball over. If I'm gonna have a 2nd tier backup QB, I'd rather him make good decisions & not turn the ball over like Taysom is doing. |
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its not even close that he'll ever be a no 2 imo, athletic yes spec. teams yes.tunnel vision maxed out. thinks to much on drop back which is why he fails to secure ball, emergency qb would define t hill. lets move on. savage is what he is, he won't win a game for you he can possibly save one with a big lead. barret with the boys that won't be on a roster when the season rolls around looks develop able.
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08-18-2018, 11:58 AM | #10 |
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Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals
I would like to see more JT Barrett with the second stringers. But I agree with the early post I would be calling the Jets right now.....
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