Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations

08-27-2018, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Chargers O line is near the top of the NFL. 18 sacks last season. They absolutely man-handled our d line in Q1.

I read Payton complain about linebacker play but our interior was atrocious.

Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.

Rugby Saint II · 08-27-2018, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.

Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

blackangold · 08-27-2018, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run.

K Major · 08-27-2018, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run.

Trey seems to be better on the left side vs right end. It appears the coaching staff experimented on the right against the Chargers and he had a tough time. However he's played extremely well on the LEFT <--- all of camp and subsequent games.

In saying all of that, Davenport is the future at the right defensive end

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Barry from MS · 08-27-2018, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.

The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out. Hopefully they learn from this beatdown. Hard to put too much blame on LBs when there's so many running lanes in the line. We have to stay sub 4 yds/carry, preferably sub 3 yds/carry for my liking.

K Major · 08-27-2018, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out.

I didn't realize how stout they were up front. That is a strength for the Chargers however our LB play has been average at best thus far. We must do better as a group.

jeanpierre · 08-27-2018, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

We used a third and fourth round picks to move up for Vonn Bell at the end of the second, so we had to trade two picks to get back into the fourth to take Onyemata...

Davison was a straight-up fifth round pick...

Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport...

Rell&Gold · 08-27-2018, 06:15 PM

Trey can rush the passer he isn't Stout against the run...alot this first quarter runs by the first team were to his side...a couple times he got blocked by TE's

Barry from MS · 08-27-2018, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport...

Ouch...no Rankins. But Onyemata has passed him. I love the potential of Lawrence, Stallworth & Loewen to develop.

The Dude · 08-27-2018, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Just a thought, but last night when Brees threw the ball up for the early interception, I turned to friends and said "Brees probably did it for film to show Ginn was out of position, again..."

Payton rarely calls out individual players and that still bouncing around in my thoughts...

Oh. You’re one of THOSE guys.
Bet you are a lot of fun to watch a game with.

Maybe Brees did it to signal the location of JFKs mystery shooter. Or maybe the location of where Elvis lives after faking his own death

08-27-2018, 08:44 AM	#21
Threaded by K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Chargers O line is near the top of the NFL. 18 sacks last season. They absolutely man-handled our d line in Q1. I read Payton complain about linebacker play but our interior was atrocious. Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.
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08-27-2018, 02:59 PM	#22
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by K Major Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler. Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

08-27-2018, 03:10 PM	#23
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me. We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run. Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-27-2018, 03:20 PM	#24
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by blackangold We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run. Trey seems to be better on the left side vs right end. It appears the coaching staff experimented on the right against the Chargers and he had a tough time. However he's played extremely well on the LEFT <--- all of camp and subsequent games. In saying all of that, Davenport is the future at the right defensive end . jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.

08-27-2018, 04:57 PM	#25
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by K Major Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler. The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out. Hopefully they learn from this beatdown. Hard to put too much blame on LBs when there's so many running lanes in the line. We have to stay sub 4 yds/carry, preferably sub 3 yds/carry for my liking. K Major likes this.

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08-27-2018, 05:00 PM	#26
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by Barry from MS The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out. I didn't realize how stout they were up front. That is a strength for the Chargers however our LB play has been average at best thus far. We must do better as a group.

08-27-2018, 05:00 PM	#27
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me. We used a third and fourth round picks to move up for Vonn Bell at the end of the second, so we had to trade two picks to get back into the fourth to take Onyemata... Davison was a straight-up fifth round pick... Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport... Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-27-2018, 06:15 PM	#28
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Trey can rush the passer he isn't Stout against the run...alot this first quarter runs by the first team were to his side...a couple times he got blocked by TE's

08-27-2018, 06:33 PM	#29
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by jeanpierre Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport... Ouch...no Rankins. But Onyemata has passed him. I love the potential of Lawrence, Stallworth & Loewen to develop. Rugby Saint II and ChrisXVI like this.

08-27-2018, 08:38 PM	#30
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