Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations

saintsfan1976 · 08-27-2018, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

For the amount of time missed, I think we saw pure athleticism and raw ability still. Hopefully everyone stays healthy and we can see him in the rotation at first, working into a stud DE.

Just curious, how is the Chargers OL ranked? Was he going against a pretty good LT?

Right now, I don't think there is a doubt that number 10 is the number 2 receiver. Or at least he and Ginn are interchangeable. I've watched every game, and barely noticed Meredith. Even the flea has made more plays than him.

Chargers O line is near the top of the NFL. 18 sacks last season. They absolutely man-handled our d line in Q1.

I read Payton complain about linebacker play but our interior was atrocious.

K Major · 08-27-2018, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Chargers O line is near the top of the NFL. 18 sacks last season. They absolutely man-handled our d line in Q1.

I read Payton complain about linebacker play but our interior was atrocious.

Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.

Rugby Saint II · 08-27-2018, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.

Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

blackangold · 08-27-2018, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run.

K Major · 08-27-2018, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run.

Trey seems to be better on the left side vs right end. It appears the coaching staff experimented on the right against the Chargers and he had a tough time. However he's played extremely well on the LEFT <--- all of camp and subsequent games.

In saying all of that, Davenport is the future at the right defensive end

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jeanpierre · 08-27-2018, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

We used a third and fourth round picks to move up for Vonn Bell at the end of the second, so we had to trade two picks to get back into the fourth to take Onyemata...

Davison was a straight-up fifth round pick...

Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport...

Barry from MS · 08-27-2018, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport...

Ouch...no Rankins. But Onyemata has passed him. I love the potential of Lawrence, Stallworth & Loewen to develop.

Barry from MS · 08-27-2018, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.

The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out. Hopefully they learn from this beatdown. Hard to put too much blame on LBs when there's so many running lanes in the line. We have to stay sub 4 yds/carry, preferably sub 3 yds/carry for my liking.

K Major · 08-27-2018, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out.

I didn't realize how stout they were up front. That is a strength for the Chargers however our LB play has been average at best thus far. We must do better as a group.

08-27-2018, 08:43 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,975 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by turbo_dog For the amount of time missed, I think we saw pure athleticism and raw ability still. Hopefully everyone stays healthy and we can see him in the rotation at first, working into a stud DE. Just curious, how is the Chargers OL ranked? Was he going against a pretty good LT? Right now, I don't think there is a doubt that number 10 is the number 2 receiver. Or at least he and Ginn are interchangeable. I've watched every game, and barely noticed Meredith. Even the flea has made more plays than him. Chargers O line is near the top of the NFL. 18 sacks last season. They absolutely man-handled our d line in Q1. I read Payton complain about linebacker play but our interior was atrocious.

08-27-2018, 08:44 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Chargers O line is near the top of the NFL. 18 sacks last season. They absolutely man-handled our d line in Q1. I read Payton complain about linebacker play but our interior was atrocious. Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler.

08-27-2018, 02:59 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by K Major Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler. Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me.

08-27-2018, 03:10 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me. We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run. Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-27-2018, 03:20 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by blackangold We can toss Rankins in to the mix here as well. He did no better than the others, but I really saw the problem with Hendrickson at DE. Trey was getting blocked out by TEs. He may be ok rushing the passer, but he is awful against the run. Trey seems to be better on the left side vs right end. It appears the coaching staff experimented on the right against the Chargers and he had a tough time. However he's played extremely well on the LEFT <--- all of camp and subsequent games. In saying all of that, Davenport is the future at the right defensive end . jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.

08-27-2018, 05:00 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Davison and Onyamata were both drafted the same year I believe.....I believe we moved up for Onyamata but didn't we also move up for Davison? I'm much more impressed with the other DT's that we've brought in.......although we didn't get much push from the middle and that is somewhat worrisome to me. We used a third and fourth round picks to move up for Vonn Bell at the end of the second, so we had to trade two picks to get back into the fourth to take Onyemata... Davison was a straight-up fifth round pick... Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport... Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-27-2018, 06:33 PM	#7
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by jeanpierre Our best front-line looks like Jordan-Onyemata-Bromley-Davenport and on passing downs Hendrickson-Jordan-Onyemata-Davenport... Ouch...no Rankins. But Onyemata has passed him. I love the potential of Lawrence, Stallworth & Loewen to develop. Rugby Saint II and ChrisXVI like this.

08-27-2018, 04:57 PM	#8
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Nick Underhill: Marcus Davenport holds his own in his Saints preseason debut; plus other observations Originally Posted by K Major Davison didn't play well. I know Pouncey is an All Pro but he really had his way with Tyeler. The Chargers interior O Line is a beast. They chewed up Rankins, Onyemata & Davison and spit them out. Hopefully they learn from this beatdown. Hard to put too much blame on LBs when there's so many running lanes in the line. We have to stay sub 4 yds/carry, preferably sub 3 yds/carry for my liking. K Major likes this.