Guido

SaintsBro · 09-12-2018, 10:58 AM

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st thomas · 09-12-2018, 01:33 PM

why don't we just go ahead and copy; say the vikes defense i no we don't match player for player but it would still keep a team from throwing 40 on u.

dizzle88 · 09-12-2018, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

why don't we just go ahead and copy; say the vikes defense i no we don't match player for player but it would still keep a team from throwing 40 on u.

Payton did that in 2014, trying to imitate Seattle's D.

He turned Rob Ryan's 2nd ranked pass Defense into the worst D in history.....again.

rezburna · 09-12-2018, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Payton did that in 2014, trying to imitate Seattle's D.

He turned Rob Ryan's 2nd ranked pass Defense into the worst D in history.....again.

The Vikings play a lot of the defense we don't need to be running that often. Cover 1 and Cover 3. They do a lot of single high safety and bring their other safety down in the box. When they're taking away the run they bring Harrison Smith down. When they're worried about the pass the leave Harrison Smith back. He can do both. He's an elite safety and great center fielder. He's top 3 at his position. We don't have that. A safety like that allows you to gamble. Plus they get a lot of pressure...which allows them to play press man because they know their pass rush will get there and their DB's won't have to cover forever.

CharityMike · 09-12-2018, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The Vikings play a lot of the defense we don't need to be running that often. Cover 1 and Cover 3. They do a lot of single high safety and bring their other safety down in the box. When they're taking away the run they bring Harrison Smith down. When they're worried about the pass the leave Harrison Smith back. He can do both. He's an elite safety and great center fielder. He's top 3 at his position. We don't have that. A safety like that allows you to gamble. Plus they get a lot of pressure...which allows them to play press man because they know their pass rush will get there and their DB's won't have to cover forever.

Agree, Harrison Smith is a BEAST! Hell, him alone is probably better than all our safeties put together.

rezburna · 09-12-2018, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Agree, Harrison Smith is a BEAST! Hell, him alone is probably better than all our safeties put together.

It's not even close. He's a complete safety who can do it all. Defend the pass or run. Play single high or shut down one side of the field. He can even do some man to man. He's not Malcolm Jenkins when it comes to man to man, but he's damn good for a safety. I'd trade 2 1st rounder's for Harrison Smith. He can make up for the deficiencies of Crawley in man to man because the Vikes #2 corner is just as bad on a lot of plays. Y'all should watch some of the film breakdowns on YouTube. They usually breakdown elite teams.

K Major · 09-12-2018, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The Vikings play a lot of the defense we don't need to be running that often. Cover 1 and Cover 3. They do a lot of single high safety and bring their other safety down in the box. When they're taking away the run they bring Harrison Smith down. When they're worried about the pass the leave Harrison Smith back. He can do both. He's an elite safety and great center fielder. He's top 3 at his position. We don't have that. A safety like that allows you to gamble. Plus they get a lot of pressure...which allows them to play press man because they know their pass rush will get there and their DB's won't have to cover forever.

+1.

Side note - Rez, did you play some safety in college as well as corner ?

rezburna · 09-12-2018, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

+1.

Side note - Rez, did you play some safety in college as well as corner ?

Nah. I probably should have though. I didn't have high-end, cornerback speed. I was more of a Malcolm Jenkins when it came to speed...part of the reason he got moved to safety in the NFL. If I would have been as committed to the game as I regret not being I probably would have been in that kind of role. Probably not to that level though. Morgan Burnett maybe.

K Major · 09-12-2018, 02:07 PM

Harrison Smith is on a whole different level at safety.

CharityMike · 09-12-2018, 05:27 PM

I agree, he was getting the ball out fast but when he threw the many bombs he threw, he had ALL day to just sit there and wait for the receiver to get open.

If we can get the pass rush figured out, we will have better production in the back end. Like always, it all starts and ends with the D line.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Guido Originally Posted by st thomas why don't we just go ahead and copy; say the vikes defense i no we don't match player for player but it would still keep a team from throwing 40 on u. Payton did that in 2014, trying to imitate Seattle's D. He turned Rob Ryan's 2nd ranked pass Defense into the worst D in history.....again. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Guido Originally Posted by dizzle88 Payton did that in 2014, trying to imitate Seattle's D. He turned Rob Ryan's 2nd ranked pass Defense into the worst D in history.....again. The Vikings play a lot of the defense we don't need to be running that often. Cover 1 and Cover 3. They do a lot of single high safety and bring their other safety down in the box. When they're taking away the run they bring Harrison Smith down. When they're worried about the pass the leave Harrison Smith back. He can do both. He's an elite safety and great center fielder. He's top 3 at his position. We don't have that. A safety like that allows you to gamble. Plus they get a lot of pressure...which allows them to play press man because they know their pass rush will get there and their DB's won't have to cover forever. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.
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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Guido Originally Posted by rezburna The Vikings play a lot of the defense we don't need to be running that often. Cover 1 and Cover 3. They do a lot of single high safety and bring their other safety down in the box. When they're taking away the run they bring Harrison Smith down. When they're worried about the pass the leave Harrison Smith back. He can do both. He's an elite safety and great center fielder. He's top 3 at his position. We don't have that. A safety like that allows you to gamble. Plus they get a lot of pressure...which allows them to play press man because they know their pass rush will get there and their DB's won't have to cover forever. Agree, Harrison Smith is a BEAST! Hell, him alone is probably better than all our safeties put together.

09-12-2018, 02:05 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Guido Originally Posted by CharityMike Agree, Harrison Smith is a BEAST! Hell, him alone is probably better than all our safeties put together. It's not even close. He's a complete safety who can do it all. Defend the pass or run. Play single high or shut down one side of the field. He can even do some man to man. He's not Malcolm Jenkins when it comes to man to man, but he's damn good for a safety. I'd trade 2 1st rounder's for Harrison Smith. He can make up for the deficiencies of Crawley in man to man because the Vikes #2 corner is just as bad on a lot of plays. Y'all should watch some of the film breakdowns on YouTube. They usually breakdown elite teams. CharityMike and K Major like this.
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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Guido why don't we just go ahead and copy; say the vikes defense i no we don't match player for player but it would still keep a team from throwing 40 on u.

09-12-2018, 02:09 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Guido Originally Posted by rezburna The Vikings play a lot of the defense we don't need to be running that often. Cover 1 and Cover 3. They do a lot of single high safety and bring their other safety down in the box. When they're taking away the run they bring Harrison Smith down. When they're worried about the pass the leave Harrison Smith back. He can do both. He's an elite safety and great center fielder. He's top 3 at his position. We don't have that. A safety like that allows you to gamble. Plus they get a lot of pressure...which allows them to play press man because they know their pass rush will get there and their DB's won't have to cover forever. +1. Side note - Rez, did you play some safety in college as well as corner ?

09-12-2018, 02:16 PM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Guido Originally Posted by K Major +1. Side note - Rez, did you play some safety in college as well as corner ? Nah. I probably should have though. I didn't have high-end, cornerback speed. I was more of a Malcolm Jenkins when it came to speed...part of the reason he got moved to safety in the NFL. If I would have been as committed to the game as I regret not being I probably would have been in that kind of role. Probably not to that level though. Morgan Burnett maybe. K Major likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Guido Harrison Smith is on a whole different level at safety.

09-12-2018, 05:27 PM	#10
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Guido I agree, he was getting the ball out fast but when he threw the many bombs he threw, he had ALL day to just sit there and wait for the receiver to get open. If we can get the pass rush figured out, we will have better production in the back end. Like always, it all starts and ends with the D line. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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