Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons

09-24-2018, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

$20 bucks. Big deal. But I will win. You want the same bet? You say that Meredith will not be a regular part of the Saints offense for seven of the remaining games? I'll take your money too. It'll give you another reason to pull against a Saints player of which you obviously have an irrational negative opinion.

It's actually very rational. He was the star on a 3-13 team where several of the starting WR's were on IR. If not for that he would have never seen the field or not enough to matter but that happened so here we are.

Nobody has emerged as the slot WR. 1 catch does not make anyone the hands down winner. It takes a body of consistent work for that to happen.

What is irrational is basing anything off of one 11 yard TD grab with nothing else behind it. He literally has 1 single catch going into week four.

The Dude · 09-24-2018, 06:42 PM

I bet you $20 bucks that there will be 10 more threads that wind up talking about the $20 bet with Guido.

AsylumGuido · 09-24-2018, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I bet you $20 bucks that there will be 10 more threads that wind up talking about the $20 bet with Guido.

And it will be Beastmode that bring it up every time. LOL!!

AsylumGuido · 09-24-2018, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

It's actually very rational. He was the star on a 3-13 team where several of the starting WR's were on IR. If not for that he would have never seen the field or not enough to matter but that happened so here we are.

Nobody has emerged as the slot WR. 1 catch does not make anyone the hands down winner. It takes a body of consistent work for that to happen.

What is irrational is basing anything off of one 11 yard TD grab with nothing else behind it. He literally has 1 single catch going into week four.

So that means he will fail. Okay. I see your logic. Or lack thereof.

Beastmode · 09-24-2018, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So that means he will fail. Okay. I see your logic. Or lack thereof.

I hope he has success and know everyone on this forum wants that to happen. What I won't do is crown him the slot at this time. I was not willing to do that when we signed him, through training camp, PS or even now. Not enough body of work to say he is our best option. That is what I have said from day one. Nothing has changed my mind so far. Is he our best option? I can't say. I honestly do not know. If he gets 2 catches next game then yeah, he is on his way. I want to see a small amount of consistency. I don't think that is too much to expect. Could Tre'Quan emerge next week? I have no freaking idea. I just hope we figure it out because MT and Kamara can't keep this up forever.

AsylumGuido · 09-24-2018, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I hope he has success and know everyone on this forum wants that to happen. What I won't do is crown him the slot at this time. I was not willing to do that when we signed him, through training camp, PS or even now. Not enough body of work to say he is our best option. That is what I have said from day one. Nothing has changed my mind so far. Is he our best option? I can't say. I honestly do not know. If he gets 2 catches next game then yeah, he is on his way. I want to see a small amount of consistency. I don't think that is too much to expect. Could Tre'Quan emerge next week? I have no freaking idea. I just hope we figure it out because MT and Kamara can't keep this up forever.

Yet you constantly attack my support for my confidence in his success?

Okay.

jnormand · 09-24-2018, 08:32 PM

Good hell....I'll bet all you guys 20 bucks that there will be at least 2 more pages on this thread about this arguement.

AsylumGuido · 09-24-2018, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good hell....I'll bet all you guys 20 bucks that there will be at least 2 more pages on this thread about this arguement.

Nope. Not covering that. LOL!

hitta · 09-24-2018, 08:37 PM

When you have a great receiver as your number 2 option, it tends to open up things a lot for the offense. Just look what Ridley did to us yesterday. Ridley is the type of player that needs to be covered by a Lattimore caliber DB. Unfortunately we couldn't do that cause they have Julio Jones as well. I hate to admit it, but Jones and Ridley together is scary... and we saw that yesterday. There will be a ton of teams that will have a hard time covering that combo. If Meredith can make big strides in the offense, we are going to be hard as **** to cover as well. Our offense I think is going to be scary good as the season plays out. Once our running game gets into gear with Ingram, I think we're going to put up a ton of points every game. If our defense can just make some strides, I think we'll be fine. I don't even think our defense needs to be as good as it was last year to be successful, but it has to be better than it has been.

Beastmode · 09-24-2018, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yet you constantly attack my support for my confidence in his success?

Okay.

You made a personal bet against other players on your team. I have no skin in that game. I never bet for or against him or anyone else. If you lose the bet then there will be a financial loss and also ridicule by others.

Just not something I get involved in. I have a higher morale code. I root for what is best for the team. If he emerges great. So far nobody owns that role and we are heading in to week 4 and , as I have firmly stated, would be the case. He has one catch just like everyone else. It is a TD but it is also for much less yards than the other two receptions by quite a bit.

If you believe he is going to be rolling as the 3rd WR then great. I base my convictions on reality. He has already had a setback as he stated in injury recovery. I took that as actually bad. Not sure how you read it. Coach also said his timing and route running is off. I took that as bad. These are not my words. These are from him and Peyton.

09-24-2018, 06:35 PM	#91
Threaded by Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido $20 bucks. Big deal. But I will win. You want the same bet? You say that Meredith will not be a regular part of the Saints offense for seven of the remaining games? I'll take your money too. It'll give you another reason to pull against a Saints player of which you obviously have an irrational negative opinion. It's actually very rational. He was the star on a 3-13 team where several of the starting WR's were on IR. If not for that he would have never seen the field or not enough to matter but that happened so here we are. Nobody has emerged as the slot WR. 1 catch does not make anyone the hands down winner. It takes a body of consistent work for that to happen. What is irrational is basing anything off of one 11 yard TD grab with nothing else behind it. He literally has 1 single catch going into week four.
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09-24-2018, 06:42 PM	#92
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons I bet you $20 bucks that there will be 10 more threads that wind up talking about the $20 bet with Guido. saintfan, jnormand, Barry from MS and 2 others like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by The Dude I bet you $20 bucks that there will be 10 more threads that wind up talking about the $20 bet with Guido. And it will be Beastmode that bring it up every time. LOL!!

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode It's actually very rational. He was the star on a 3-13 team where several of the starting WR's were on IR. If not for that he would have never seen the field or not enough to matter but that happened so here we are. Nobody has emerged as the slot WR. 1 catch does not make anyone the hands down winner. It takes a body of consistent work for that to happen. What is irrational is basing anything off of one 11 yard TD grab with nothing else behind it. He literally has 1 single catch going into week four. So that means he will fail. Okay. I see your logic. Or lack thereof.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So that means he will fail. Okay. I see your logic. Or lack thereof. I hope he has success and know everyone on this forum wants that to happen. What I won't do is crown him the slot at this time. I was not willing to do that when we signed him, through training camp, PS or even now. Not enough body of work to say he is our best option. That is what I have said from day one. Nothing has changed my mind so far. Is he our best option? I can't say. I honestly do not know. If he gets 2 catches next game then yeah, he is on his way. I want to see a small amount of consistency. I don't think that is too much to expect. Could Tre'Quan emerge next week? I have no freaking idea. I just hope we figure it out because MT and Kamara can't keep this up forever.
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09-24-2018, 07:34 PM	#96
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode I hope he has success and know everyone on this forum wants that to happen. What I won't do is crown him the slot at this time. I was not willing to do that when we signed him, through training camp, PS or even now. Not enough body of work to say he is our best option. That is what I have said from day one. Nothing has changed my mind so far. Is he our best option? I can't say. I honestly do not know. If he gets 2 catches next game then yeah, he is on his way. I want to see a small amount of consistency. I don't think that is too much to expect. Could Tre'Quan emerge next week? I have no freaking idea. I just hope we figure it out because MT and Kamara can't keep this up forever. Yet you constantly attack my support for my confidence in his success? Okay.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Good hell....I'll bet all you guys 20 bucks that there will be at least 2 more pages on this thread about this arguement. Barry from MS likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by jnormand Good hell....I'll bet all you guys 20 bucks that there will be at least 2 more pages on this thread about this arguement. Nope. Not covering that. LOL!

09-24-2018, 08:37 PM	#99
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons When you have a great receiver as your number 2 option, it tends to open up things a lot for the offense. Just look what Ridley did to us yesterday. Ridley is the type of player that needs to be covered by a Lattimore caliber DB. Unfortunately we couldn't do that cause they have Julio Jones as well. I hate to admit it, but Jones and Ridley together is scary... and we saw that yesterday. There will be a ton of teams that will have a hard time covering that combo. If Meredith can make big strides in the offense, we are going to be hard as **** to cover as well. Our offense I think is going to be scary good as the season plays out. Once our running game gets into gear with Ingram, I think we're going to put up a ton of points every game. If our defense can just make some strides, I think we'll be fine. I don't even think our defense needs to be as good as it was last year to be successful, but it has to be better than it has been.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yet you constantly attack my support for my confidence in his success? Okay. You made a personal bet against other players on your team. I have no skin in that game. I never bet for or against him or anyone else. If you lose the bet then there will be a financial loss and also ridicule by others. Just not something I get involved in. I have a higher morale code. I root for what is best for the team. If he emerges great. So far nobody owns that role and we are heading in to week 4 and , as I have firmly stated, would be the case. He has one catch just like everyone else. It is a TD but it is also for much less yards than the other two receptions by quite a bit. If you believe he is going to be rolling as the 3rd WR then great. I base my convictions on reality. He has already had a setback as he stated in injury recovery. I took that as actually bad. Not sure how you read it. Coach also said his timing and route running is off. I took that as bad. These are not my words. These are from him and Peyton.
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