Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons

dizzle88 · 09-22-2018, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Getting more touches to another WR won't change anything because it's not an issue with Brees completing 8 of 10 passes. Nobody has that going on. Stop it first then it needs attention.

The D has to turn it around. The big strikes are killing us but that is what we do. Give up big 30 plus yards strikes consistently and then demand Brees bail us out. He can do it sometimes but not every damn game. They have to step up.

It has already become an issue when we didn't score a TD until the 4th quarter vs the Brown's.

Beastmode · 09-22-2018, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It has already become an issue when we didn't score a TD until the 4th quarter vs the Brown's.

How is it an issue if we won the game. They have a very good defense. MT still scored 2 TD's. Kamara got his and Ginn hauled in a bomb. Not sure what else could have been done. So stop throwing to them and bring in a rookie and a not so confident CM? ok.

dizzle88 · 09-22-2018, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

How is it an issue if we won the game. They have a very good defense. MT still scored 2 TD's. Kamara got his and Ginn hauled in a bomb. Not sure what else could have been done. So stop throwing to them and bring in a rookie and a not so confident CM? ok.

It's an issue because we let a bad team stick around, a better team with an average kicker would have made us pay.

The offensive line allowed 3 3rd down sacks by the same player, if we don't get more people involved it will eventually bite us when Defenses figure out we only throw to Thomas and Kamara.

Rugby Saint II · 09-22-2018, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It's an issue because we let a bad team stick around, a better team with an average kicker would have made us pay.

The offensive line allowed 3 3rd down sacks by the same player, if we don't get more people involved it will eventually bite us when Defenses figure out we only throw to Thomas and Kamara.

If we follow the same game plan of feeding #13 and #41 then we can't count on their kicker to help us win the game. We have to convert on third downs and get touch downs more often than last year or this year either if we want to play post season football. That is why we took a chance on Coleman and have eased him into the game slowly.

Beastmode · 09-22-2018, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It's an issue because we let a bad team stick around, a better team with an average kicker would have made us pay.

The offensive line allowed 3 3rd down sacks by the same player, if we don't get more people involved it will eventually bite us when Defenses figure out we only throw to Thomas and Kamara.

The Browns are not a bad team. They have a damn good defense and some solid weapons. Evidence is they are not getting blown out by the likes of Antonio Brown and Ju Ju, Brees and Co. They are right on the edge of turning it around which they did this week.

They have a better record than us. They can hang with anyone.

AsylumGuido · 09-22-2018, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

How is it an issue if we won the game. They have a very good defense. MT still scored 2 TD's. Kamara got his and Ginn hauled in a bomb. Not sure what else could have been done. So stop throwing to them and bring in a rookie and a not so confident CM? ok.

And why is it that you think Meredith is not confident? Where are you coming up with this stuff?

Beastmode · 09-22-2018, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And why is it that you think Meredith is not confident? Where are you coming up with this stuff?

Where is the evidence. What you are concerned about is losing your stupid $20 bet. I never bet against him or for him. There is no evidence he will be involved in the offense other than a token catch or two. He is a non factor.

If you want to believe he is going to be some super WR2 then go right ahead. Nothing is saying that is going to happen. Go watch his highlights from over a YEAR ago. He was WIDE open because the team sucked. It was garbage time and they ignored him. None of what he did was in tight coverage. He also showed no blocking ability. If you want to ignore that then go ahead. Reality is he is healthy and still a non factor.

There are a couple of WR's ahead of him as of today. That is the reality of the situation. He can work out with the starters all he wants. It still has not manifested on the actual field. If it does not happen there then the closer you get to losing your bet. I'm done with this 5th WR nonsense if you think he is going to blow up then congrats. You won the lottery if that happens.

AsylumGuido · 09-22-2018, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Where is the evidence. What you are concerned about is losing your stupid $20 bet. I never bet against him or for him. There is no evidence he will be involved in the offense other than a token catch or two. He is a non factor.

If you want to believe he is going to be some super WR2 then go right ahead. Nothing is saying that is going to happen. Go watch his highlights from over a YEAR ago. He was WIDE open because the team sucked. It was garbage time and they ignored him. None of what he did was in tight coverage. He also showed no blocking ability. If you want to ignore that then go ahead. Reality is he is healthy and still a non factor.

There are a couple of WR's ahead of him as of today. That is the reality of the situation. He can work out with the starters all he wants. It still has not manifested on the actual field. If it does not happen there then the closer you get to losing your bet. I'm done with this 5th WR nonsense if you think he is going to blow up then congrats. You won the lottery if that happens.

You really never answered my question about why you are so sure he would not be confident.

Now, let's take on your argument that he is no good.

He was WIDE open because the team sucked.

Excuse me? That make no sense whatsoever. If his team sucked it would be more likely that he wouldn't be open. I really don't remember the Bears being an offensive machine recently. Could it be he was wide open because he is able to run precise routes (which has been one of his accolades)?

Reality is he is healthy and still a non factor.

It's hard to be a factor until he finally gets into the game. I really don't see any logical point here.

There are a couple of WR's ahead of him as of today.

You may be right on this. Michael Thomas and marginally Ted Ginn. I have a feeling that Smith and Meredith will be firmly planted as the #2 and #3 before the season is over.

09-22-2018, 01:49 PM	#2
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by dizzle88 It has already become an issue when we didn't score a TD until the 4th quarter vs the Brown's. How is it an issue if we won the game. They have a very good defense. MT still scored 2 TD's. Kamara got his and Ginn hauled in a bomb. Not sure what else could have been done. So stop throwing to them and bring in a rookie and a not so confident CM? ok.
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09-22-2018, 03:12 PM	#5
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by dizzle88 It's an issue because we let a bad team stick around, a better team with an average kicker would have made us pay. The offensive line allowed 3 3rd down sacks by the same player, if we don't get more people involved it will eventually bite us when Defenses figure out we only throw to Thomas and Kamara. The Browns are not a bad team. They have a damn good defense and some solid weapons. Evidence is they are not getting blown out by the likes of Antonio Brown and Ju Ju, Brees and Co. They are right on the edge of turning it around which they did this week. They have a better record than us. They can hang with anyone.
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09-22-2018, 02:45 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode How is it an issue if we won the game. They have a very good defense. MT still scored 2 TD's. Kamara got his and Ginn hauled in a bomb. Not sure what else could have been done. So stop throwing to them and bring in a rookie and a not so confident CM? ok. And why is it that you think Meredith is not confident? Where are you coming up with this stuff?

09-22-2018, 03:18 PM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And why is it that you think Meredith is not confident? Where are you coming up with this stuff? Where is the evidence. What you are concerned about is losing your stupid $20 bet. I never bet against him or for him. There is no evidence he will be involved in the offense other than a token catch or two. He is a non factor. If you want to believe he is going to be some super WR2 then go right ahead. Nothing is saying that is going to happen. Go watch his highlights from over a YEAR ago. He was WIDE open because the team sucked. It was garbage time and they ignored him. None of what he did was in tight coverage. He also showed no blocking ability. If you want to ignore that then go ahead. Reality is he is healthy and still a non factor. There are a couple of WR's ahead of him as of today. That is the reality of the situation. He can work out with the starters all he wants. It still has not manifested on the actual field. If it does not happen there then the closer you get to losing your bet. I'm done with this 5th WR nonsense if you think he is going to blow up then congrats. You won the lottery if that happens.
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09-22-2018, 04:34 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode Where is the evidence. What you are concerned about is losing your stupid $20 bet. I never bet against him or for him. There is no evidence he will be involved in the offense other than a token catch or two. He is a non factor. If you want to believe he is going to be some super WR2 then go right ahead. Nothing is saying that is going to happen. Go watch his highlights from over a YEAR ago. He was WIDE open because the team sucked. It was garbage time and they ignored him. None of what he did was in tight coverage. He also showed no blocking ability. If you want to ignore that then go ahead. Reality is he is healthy and still a non factor. There are a couple of WR's ahead of him as of today. That is the reality of the situation. He can work out with the starters all he wants. It still has not manifested on the actual field. If it does not happen there then the closer you get to losing your bet. I'm done with this 5th WR nonsense if you think he is going to blow up then congrats. You won the lottery if that happens. You really never answered my question about why you are so sure he would not be confident. Now, let's take on your argument that he is no good. He was WIDE open because the team sucked. Excuse me? That make no sense whatsoever. If his team sucked it would be more likely that he wouldn't be open. I really don't remember the Bears being an offensive machine recently. Could it be he was wide open because he is able to run precise routes (which has been one of his accolades)? Reality is he is healthy and still a non factor. It's hard to be a factor until he finally gets into the game. I really don't see any logical point here. There are a couple of WR's ahead of him as of today. You may be right on this. Michael Thomas and marginally Ted Ginn. I have a feeling that Smith and Meredith will be firmly planted as the #2 and #3 before the season is over.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

09-22-2018, 01:41 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode Getting more touches to another WR won't change anything because it's not an issue with Brees completing 8 of 10 passes. Nobody has that going on. Stop it first then it needs attention. The D has to turn it around. The big strikes are killing us but that is what we do. Give up big 30 plus yards strikes consistently and then demand Brees bail us out. He can do it sometimes but not every damn game. They have to step up. It has already become an issue when we didn't score a TD until the 4th quarter vs the Brown's.

09-22-2018, 02:00 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by Beastmode How is it an issue if we won the game. They have a very good defense. MT still scored 2 TD's. Kamara got his and Ginn hauled in a bomb. Not sure what else could have been done. So stop throwing to them and bring in a rookie and a not so confident CM? ok. It's an issue because we let a bad team stick around, a better team with an average kicker would have made us pay. The offensive line allowed 3 3rd down sacks by the same player, if we don't get more people involved it will eventually bite us when Defenses figure out we only throw to Thomas and Kamara. AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and The Dude like this.

09-22-2018, 02:29 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons Originally Posted by dizzle88 It's an issue because we let a bad team stick around, a better team with an average kicker would have made us pay. The offensive line allowed 3 3rd down sacks by the same player, if we don't get more people involved it will eventually bite us when Defenses figure out we only throw to Thomas and Kamara. If we follow the same game plan of feeding #13 and #41 then we can't count on their kicker to help us win the game. We have to convert on third downs and get touch downs more often than last year or this year either if we want to play post season football. That is why we took a chance on Coleman and have eased him into the game slowly.

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