OUR 2005 TEAM RECORD

Danno · 05-20-2005, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

BUF toss up(probable loss), NYJ loss, NE loss, Min loss, GB loss, And I give us a chance to lose at least one of the four between STL, NYG, CHI, and DET. That would be 6 losses out of those 10. And Mia won't be a breeze either, new coach, stud RB, bad ass defense.

LOL, Another pessimism bomb.

News Flash: No game is an sure win, therefore no game is a sure loss. Not one single game on our schedule is going to be a breeze. Of your 4 stated losses, odds are we'll win one or two of them. You can never be sure.

NYJ-Loss? nope, toss up. They have more questionmarks than we do.
GB-Loss? Nope, toss up. They are a team on the decline both on offense and defense.

Oh forget it. Its like talking to a wall. I give up.

Atlanta-Michael Vick- 2 Losses
Carolina-Great defense, great coaching- 2 Losses
Tampa Bay-Great draft, great DC, offensive coach getting his players - 2 Losses
New England-HA! Loss
Buffalo-Up and coming team with great D. Loss
Miami-Nick Saben, good defense, Ronnie Brown - Loss
New York Jets-Better coach, better QB, Loss
Minn-Awesome offseason, Loss
Green Bay-Better QB, better RB, Better defense, Loss
Detroit-team on the rise, coming together-Loss
Chicago-After Miami loss, and before bye week? Loss
St Louis-Better RB, better Defense, better coach, better QB,-Loss
NY Giants-Better QB, better RB, Better Coach, Better defense,-Loss

Yup, what was I thinking?
0-16 is obvious to anyone with a brain.

Tobias-Reiper · 05-20-2005, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

BUF toss up(probable loss), NYJ loss, NE loss, Min loss, GB loss, And I give us a chance to lose at least one of the four between STL, NYG, CHI, and DET. That would be 6 losses out of those 10. And Mia won't be a breeze either, new coach, stud RB, bad ass defense.

LOL, Another pessimism bomb.

News Flash: No game is an sure win, therefore no game is a sure loss. Not one single game on our schedule is going to be a breeze. Of your 4 stated losses, odds are we'll win one or two of them. You can never be sure.

NYJ-Loss? nope, toss up. They have more questionmarks than we do.
GB-Loss? Nope, toss up. They are a team on the decline both on offense and defense.

Oh forget it. Its like talking to a wall. I give up.

Atlanta-Michael Vick- 2 Losses
Carolina-Great defense, great coaching- 2 Losses
Tampa Bay-Great draft, great DC, offensive coach getting his players - 2 Losses
New England-HA! Loss
Buffalo-Up and coming team with great D. Loss
Miami-Nick Saben, good defense, Ronnie Brown - Loss
New York Jets-Better coach, better QB, Loss
Minn-Awesome offseason, Loss
Green Bay-Better QB, better RB, Better defense, Loss
Detroit-team on the rise, coming together-Loss
Chicago-After Miami loss, and before bye week? Loss
St Louis-Better RB, better Defense, better coach, better QB,-Loss
NY Giants-Better QB, better RB, Better Coach, Better defense,-Loss

Yup, what was I thinking?
0-16 is obvious to anyone with a brain.

you know, you asked for people's opinions and then ridicule them because they don't agree with what you are saying...

.. if no game is a sure win, and no game is a sure loss, how can you..

oh never mind... where is the ignore button here?

Danno · 05-20-2005, 06:03 PM

Here's a thought, when you see the name "Danno" don't read it.
It works the same as an ignore button if used properly.

saintsfan1313 · 05-20-2005, 06:29 PM

Look, a brand new format for the site, but still the same BULL$H|T between people!!!! I love it!!! Finally BNG is Back!!!!!

spkb25 · 05-20-2005, 06:41 PM

i'll go with 10-6 just because i love to be let down

WhoDat · 05-20-2005, 06:55 PM

Danno - you're doing a fantastic job in your new role as white wizard!!!
http://www.blackandgold.net/site/ind...ghlight=wizard

Look man, I think that this team has the talent to be 11-5, maybe better. But it also has the coaching, discipline, and find a way to lose spirit that makes me think they can be 5-11. That said, whether you take the average, go by recent history, or simply ask, is there really any way the Saints will give me something other than the worst case - you come out to 8-8.

I just can't imagine a world with the Saints winning and an owner not threatening to leave. Sometimes I try to think about the late 80s and early 90s, but that just seems like a dream now.

Euphoria · 05-20-2005, 07:27 PM

Here is how I think the season will go down... I think its mostly in Sheppards hands. Mike feels he is going to make a name for himself. If he does well then we are in the playoffs. If not we are going to be sitting at 6 wins at best. The improvements on D are going to be noted but its Sheppard who this is going to make or break us.

lynwood · 05-20-2005, 07:28 PM

Tampa-2 wins we always play them hard
Carolina-2-I think we can sweep them this year. The whole Jake thing means another level of play.
Atlanta- we will split. We've played them close in past years.

That's 5 wins for the division.

NYG-Win-Eli still learning the hard way.
STL- win team on decline and weak offensive line. Martz will blow up.
CHI-win I forsee injuries on that team.Grossman is coming off injury and mushin is old. Bensen is new to nfl so expect a sprain.
DET- Loss This years Chargers
GB- Loss - old man goes out in style and is playing us in Lambeau
MIN- Loss-winable but Dante is a competitor
NE- Loss- you know why.
NYJ - Win-Their loss alowed us to not make the playoffs. revenge is sweet.
BUF- win-I don't know much about this team but it's a home game so advantage us.
MIA- Win - with or without ricky

So that's 11 wins if i counted correctly. i'll take a +/- 1

no_cloning · 05-20-2005, 07:47 PM

Compare the out-of-division schedule to last year's ...

2004 - 2005

San Diego (12-4) L - NE
Denver (10-6) L - NYJ
Seattle (9-7) L - NYG
Minnesota (8-8 ) L - MIN
St. Louis (8-8 ) W - STL
Kansas City (7-9) W - GB
Dallas (6-10) W - BUF
Arizona (6-10) L - DET
Oakland (5-11) W - CHI
San Francisco (2-14) W - MIA

Based on how well I expect our opponents to do this season, I'd say the schedule is slightly harder this year. That's why I think the divisional games are even more crucial this year. They need to win those games, ESPECIALLY in the dome.

saintswhodi · 05-20-2005, 08:52 PM

Good call tobias. Danno wants opinions, but only the ones that will blow smoke up everyone's ass. IF you don't pick 10-6 or higher, you are a pessimist. Someone remind me what our record is the last 4 years? 32-32? Every team in the division got better, Minn got better, last I checked Green Bay still had Favre and Green, NYJ was a playoff team last year and got Coles back, who is better than Moss. Yeah they look worse. They even have a kicker who can boom it. But listen to Danno everyone, 16-0, no even better 19-0 cause we will waltz through the playoffs and the Superbowl. Don't let that smoke being blown burn your ass though.

05-20-2005, 05:42 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by saintswhodi BUF toss up(probable loss), NYJ loss, NE loss, Min loss, GB loss, And I give us a chance to lose at least one of the four between STL, NYG, CHI, and DET. That would be 6 losses out of those 10. And Mia won't be a breeze either, new coach, stud RB, bad ass defense. LOL, Another pessimism bomb. News Flash: No game is an sure win, therefore no game is a sure loss. Not one single game on our schedule is going to be a breeze. Of your 4 stated losses, odds are we'll win one or two of them. You can never be sure. NYJ-Loss? nope, toss up. They have more questionmarks than we do. GB-Loss? Nope, toss up. They are a team on the decline both on offense and defense. Oh forget it. Its like talking to a wall. I give up. Atlanta-Michael Vick- 2 Losses Carolina-Great defense, great coaching- 2 Losses Tampa Bay-Great draft, great DC, offensive coach getting his players - 2 Losses New England-HA! Loss Buffalo-Up and coming team with great D. Loss Miami-Nick Saben, good defense, Ronnie Brown - Loss New York Jets-Better coach, better QB, Loss Minn-Awesome offseason, Loss Green Bay-Better QB, better RB, Better defense, Loss Detroit-team on the rise, coming together-Loss Chicago-After Miami loss, and before bye week? Loss St Louis-Better RB, better Defense, better coach, better QB,-Loss NY Giants-Better QB, better RB, Better Coach, Better defense,-Loss Yup, what was I thinking? 0-16 is obvious to anyone with a brain.

05-20-2005, 05:55 PM	#12
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by Danno Originally Posted by saintswhodi BUF toss up(probable loss), NYJ loss, NE loss, Min loss, GB loss, And I give us a chance to lose at least one of the four between STL, NYG, CHI, and DET. That would be 6 losses out of those 10. And Mia won't be a breeze either, new coach, stud RB, bad ass defense. LOL, Another pessimism bomb. News Flash: No game is an sure win, therefore no game is a sure loss. Not one single game on our schedule is going to be a breeze. Of your 4 stated losses, odds are we'll win one or two of them. You can never be sure. NYJ-Loss? nope, toss up. They have more questionmarks than we do. GB-Loss? Nope, toss up. They are a team on the decline both on offense and defense. Oh forget it. Its like talking to a wall. I give up. Atlanta-Michael Vick- 2 Losses Carolina-Great defense, great coaching- 2 Losses Tampa Bay-Great draft, great DC, offensive coach getting his players - 2 Losses New England-HA! Loss Buffalo-Up and coming team with great D. Loss Miami-Nick Saben, good defense, Ronnie Brown - Loss New York Jets-Better coach, better QB, Loss Minn-Awesome offseason, Loss Green Bay-Better QB, better RB, Better defense, Loss Detroit-team on the rise, coming together-Loss Chicago-After Miami loss, and before bye week? Loss St Louis-Better RB, better Defense, better coach, better QB,-Loss NY Giants-Better QB, better RB, Better Coach, Better defense,-Loss Yup, what was I thinking? 0-16 is obvious to anyone with a brain. you know, you asked for people's opinions and then ridicule them because they don't agree with what you are saying... .. if no game is a sure win, and no game is a sure loss, how can you.. oh never mind... where is the ignore button here?

05-20-2005, 06:55 PM	#16
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Danno - you're doing a fantastic job in your new role as white wizard!!! http://www.blackandgold.net/site/ind...ghlight=wizard Look man, I think that this team has the talent to be 11-5, maybe better. But it also has the coaching, discipline, and find a way to lose spirit that makes me think they can be 5-11. That said, whether you take the average, go by recent history, or simply ask, is there really any way the Saints will give me something other than the worst case - you come out to 8-8. I just can't imagine a world with the Saints winning and an owner not threatening to leave. Sometimes I try to think about the late 80s and early 90s, but that just seems like a dream now.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

05-20-2005, 07:47 PM	#19
no_cloning 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 249	Compare the out-of-division schedule to last year's ... 2004 - 2005 San Diego (12-4) L - NE Denver (10-6) L - NYJ Seattle (9-7) L - NYG Minnesota (8-8 ) L - MIN St. Louis (8-8 ) W - STL Kansas City (7-9) W - GB Dallas (6-10) W - BUF Arizona (6-10) L - DET Oakland (5-11) W - CHI San Francisco (2-14) W - MIA Based on how well I expect our opponents to do this season, I'd say the schedule is slightly harder this year. That's why I think the divisional games are even more crucial this year. They need to win those games, ESPECIALLY in the dome.
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05-20-2005, 06:03 PM	#13
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05-20-2005, 06:41 PM	#15
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	i'll go with 10-6 just because i love to be let down

05-20-2005, 07:27 PM	#17
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Here is how I think the season will go down... I think its mostly in Sheppards hands. Mike feels he is going to make a name for himself. If he does well then we are in the playoffs. If not we are going to be sitting at 6 wins at best. The improvements on D are going to be noted but its Sheppard who this is going to make or break us.

05-20-2005, 07:28 PM	#18
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Tampa-2 wins we always play them hard Carolina-2-I think we can sweep them this year. The whole Jake thing means another level of play. Atlanta- we will split. We've played them close in past years. That's 5 wins for the division. NYG-Win-Eli still learning the hard way. STL- win team on decline and weak offensive line. Martz will blow up. CHI-win I forsee injuries on that team.Grossman is coming off injury and mushin is old. Bensen is new to nfl so expect a sprain. DET- Loss This years Chargers GB- Loss - old man goes out in style and is playing us in Lambeau MIN- Loss-winable but Dante is a competitor NE- Loss- you know why. NYJ - Win-Their loss alowed us to not make the playoffs. revenge is sweet. BUF- win-I don't know much about this team but it's a home game so advantage us. MIA- Win - with or without ricky So that's 11 wins if i counted correctly. i'll take a +/- 1

05-20-2005, 08:52 PM	#20
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Good call tobias. Danno wants opinions, but only the ones that will blow smoke up everyone's ass. IF you don't pick 10-6 or higher, you are a pessimist. Someone remind me what our record is the last 4 years? 32-32? Every team in the division got better, Minn got better, last I checked Green Bay still had Favre and Green, NYJ was a playoff team last year and got Coles back, who is better than Moss. Yeah they look worse. They even have a kicker who can boom it. But listen to Danno everyone, 16-0, no even better 19-0 cause we will waltz through the playoffs and the Superbowl. Don't let that smoke being blown burn your ass though.