Team Weaknesses

jnormand · 05-22-2005, 06:52 AM

I agree with you Danno. The team has the talent, but it lacks.....I don't know....more W's in the win column. I hope it all comes together this year.

And Scotty, don't get down on Danno for drinking. Most Saints fans are alcoholics, it's the only way we can try to NOT remember the 2nd half of the game. Just kiddin guys....well kind of.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-22-2005, 10:11 AM

Glad to be back.

Danno, good post from a personnel standpoint.

Care to comment on coaching?

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-22-2005, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Let me give this a shot......

QB: Average. My reason for saying this is that we have a superbly mediocre quarterback, a guy who can throw for 300 yards and four touchdowns in one game and then throw the ball to a lineman in another.

Just a nitpick: the description above is inconsistency, not mediocrity. Mediocre is a consistent average or below average performance.

SFIAH

WhoDat · 05-22-2005, 01:30 PM

True - inconsistency may be a better term for AB. I agree, and I've said that for a while now. Then again, if Brooks is top 5 one week and bottom fine the next, over the long run it "averages out" to mediocre, doesn't it?

Danno · 05-22-2005, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Glad to be back.

Danno, good post from a personnel standpoint.

Care to comment on coaching?

SFIAH

HC-Between Average and Below Average. But young enough to improve

DC-If its Venturi, Below Average, BUT...If the rumors are true that he's taken a back seat to Pease/Robinson/Haslett then I'd say Average to slightly above average.

OC-Hard to say. Hated McCarthy's playcalling. I'm encouraged by what I hear and read about Sheppard (and Schonert). He's taken teams with much less talent and succeeded.

Overall, I'd say above average, but only slightly. But thats only because I'm hesitant about all coaching changes. I feel better about the staff now than previous years, but thats not saying much. On a scale of 1-10 I'd say a 6. Maybe an 8 if my hopes materialize.

And here's what I hope...

1. Haz has learned from his mistakes and will improve as the head coach.

2. Pease/Robinson (or even Haz) are actually calling the gameday shots instead of Venturi.

3. Sheppard truly is a good OC who only needs a talented team to prove it. Combined with a Turk Schonert to put a foot up someones asss if they need it.

If all three materialize, we're looking at 11-5
If only two of three, 10-6
If one of three, 9-7
If all three are pipe dreams, 8-8 again.

Saintuary · 05-23-2005, 10:50 PM

My thoughts are the wide receivers. Who can catch the ball other than Joe Horn? Donte, dropsy. Henderson, lost, Gardner concrete for hands, Beerman will end his career going across the middle. Nate Poole, not. Joe is a route posession player now due to speed dwindling.

Then we have Conwell, Hilton, Williams, Meier at TE. Anybody scared yet?

I don't know why but I thought this guy Franky Lyman would help, not happening.

I wonder if Uncle Rice could help?

Saintuary · 05-23-2005, 10:56 PM

Sorry, missed the post Team weaknesses. Dang!!!!

(We Merged the Topics)

05-22-2005, 06:52 AM	#11
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	RE: Re: RE: Team Weaknesses I agree with you Danno. The team has the talent, but it lacks.....I don't know....more W's in the win column. I hope it all comes together this year. And Scotty, don't get down on Danno for drinking. Most Saints fans are alcoholics, it's the only way we can try to NOT remember the 2nd half of the game. Just kiddin guys....well kind of.

05-22-2005, 10:20 AM	#13
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: RE: Re: RE: Team Weaknesses Originally Posted by TheDeuce Let me give this a shot...... QB: Average. My reason for saying this is that we have a superbly mediocre quarterback, a guy who can throw for 300 yards and four touchdowns in one game and then throw the ball to a lineman in another. Just a nitpick: the description above is inconsistency, not mediocrity. Mediocre is a consistent average or below average performance. SFIAH

05-22-2005, 01:30 PM	#14
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Team Weaknesses True - inconsistency may be a better term for AB. I agree, and I've said that for a while now. Then again, if Brooks is top 5 one week and bottom fine the next, over the long run it "averages out" to mediocre, doesn't it?
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05-22-2005, 07:05 PM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Glad to be back. Danno, good post from a personnel standpoint. Care to comment on coaching? SFIAH HC-Between Average and Below Average. But young enough to improve DC-If its Venturi, Below Average, BUT...If the rumors are true that he's taken a back seat to Pease/Robinson/Haslett then I'd say Average to slightly above average. OC-Hard to say. Hated McCarthy's playcalling. I'm encouraged by what I hear and read about Sheppard (and Schonert). He's taken teams with much less talent and succeeded. Overall, I'd say above average, but only slightly. But thats only because I'm hesitant about all coaching changes. I feel better about the staff now than previous years, but thats not saying much. On a scale of 1-10 I'd say a 6. Maybe an 8 if my hopes materialize. And here's what I hope... 1. Haz has learned from his mistakes and will improve as the head coach. 2. Pease/Robinson (or even Haz) are actually calling the gameday shots instead of Venturi. 3. Sheppard truly is a good OC who only needs a talented team to prove it. Combined with a Turk Schonert to put a foot up someones asss if they need it. If all three materialize, we're looking at 11-5 If only two of three, 10-6 If one of three, 9-7 If all three are pipe dreams, 8-8 again.

05-23-2005, 10:50 PM	#16
Saintuary 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 198	What's our weakest position now? My thoughts are the wide receivers. Who can catch the ball other than Joe Horn? Donte, dropsy. Henderson, lost, Gardner concrete for hands, Beerman will end his career going across the middle. Nate Poole, not. Joe is a route posession player now due to speed dwindling. Then we have Conwell, Hilton, Williams, Meier at TE. Anybody scared yet? I don't know why but I thought this guy Franky Lyman would help, not happening. I wonder if Uncle Rice could help?

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05-22-2005, 10:11 AM	#12
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Glad to be back. Danno, good post from a personnel standpoint. Care to comment on coaching? SFIAH

05-23-2005, 10:56 PM	#17
Saintuary 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 198	RE: What Sorry, missed the post Team weaknesses. Dang!!!! (We Merged the Topics)