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Old 11-23-2018, 09:01 PM   #1
 
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Can you explain to me how the Rams D is "good"?

Against teams with a record of 4-6 or better (8 games), they've given up 32.4 (!!) points per game, including 45 to the Saints and 51 (!!) at HOME against the Chiefs. They had a grand total of 0 (!!) sacks against the Saints, yet every single media member outside of NOLA beat writers still drools over Aaron Donald and Marcus Peters.

Saints defense by comparison has given up 19.6 PPG against teams 4-6 or better in 6 games.
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Old 11-23-2018, 09:21 PM   #2
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They aren’t. I don’t think many are saying they are any good. They got some TOs against KC but I think that was more about Mahommes inexperience an inability to hold onto the ball when pressured. The Rams produced 3 turnovers and still almost lost.
Their home field advantage sucks too.
I think there is something off in the structure of the standings when we both have one loss, theirs to us, yet they are ahead of us.
Goes to show you how much a division loss hurts.
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They rightly drool over Donald he's a damn beast. The issue from what I've seen is the rest of the line wants sacks. Especially Suh, can't have both DT trying to sack and not playing the run. And like the Falcons they are small at linebacker. All well and good when playing the pass but a 225lb ILB not going to hold the middle when the two DT have left space for the runner to build up a head of steam.

I like Peters but he has sucked since the trade
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Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
They aren’t. I don’t think many are saying they are any good. They got some TOs against KC but I think that was more about Mahommes inexperience an inability to hold onto the ball when pressured. The Rams produced 3 turnovers and still almost lost.
Their home field advantage sucks too.
I think there is something off in the structure of the standings when we both have one loss, theirs to us, yet they are ahead of us.
Goes to show you how much a division loss hurts.
They were ahead of us because they'd played one more game. The Saints won this week and the Rams are on bye so the Saints are ahead of the Rams now due to the head to head match up. The division loss doesn't apply in this case.

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Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
I think there is something off in the structure of the standings when we both have one loss, theirs to us, yet they are ahead of us. Goes to show you how much a division loss hurts.
Each win is worth a 1/2 game when the losses are equal. At 10-1 the Rams had 5 games. At 9-1 (at the time) the Saints had 4.5 games. That's why the Rams were in the #1 slot. Our win Thursday pulled the records even. Then the tiebreakers kick in. We have the #1 tiebreaker: head to head.

Ties are the same BTW. Worth a 1/2 win. That's why Minnesota at 5-4-1 are ahead of the teams that are 5-5.

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Old 11-24-2018, 01:58 PM   #6
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It's not! When you let a team hang 51 on you or even 35 your D ain't s**t!
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NFL.com's playoff picture has us at #1 seed... The Rams are not ranked above us.
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In conference rankings we are above the Rams.
https://www.nfl.com/standings/conference/2018/REG

No other lists matter.
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
Against teams with a record of 4-6 or better (8 games), they've given up 32.4 (!!) points per game, including 45 to the Saints and 51 (!!) at HOME against the Chiefs. They had a grand total of 0 (!!) sacks against the Saints, yet every single media member outside of NOLA beat writers still drools over Aaron Donald and Marcus Peters.

Saints defense by comparison has given up 19.6 PPG against teams 4-6 or better in 6 games.
Same comment I made to Halo about the LA.. Hype. The league has an obligation to push this new venture and stadium. The NFL has become entertainment and marketing and this is marketing hype.
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Old 11-24-2018, 05:06 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
NFL.com's playoff picture has us at #1 seed... The Rams are not ranked above us.
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In conference rankings we are above the Rams.
https://www.nfl.com/standings/conference/2018/REG

No other lists matter.
The Dude was likely looking at standings as of before the game when the Rams were 10-1 and the Saints 9-1. With both with the same record, there's no way the Rams would be put above the Saints.

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