Brees ,rivers, mahommes

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-13-2018, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Manning threw a pick 6 in Super Bowl in 2009 when he was awarded the MVP.

A few finer points:

1. That pick-6 essentially sealed the game. It was a decisive turnover.

2. The MVP was awarded the night before as the NFL MVP is a regular season award. Of course one of the implied criteria is that the MVP's team plays that year at a playoff level of quality. So often in the eventual MVP is in the playoffs at some point.

3. Brees of course won the Super Bowl MVP. His stat line for the game was sick: 32 of 39 for 288 with 2 TDs no picks and a 114.5 passer rating.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2018, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

A few finer points:

1. That pick-6 essentially sealed the game. It was a decisive turnover.

2. The MVP was awarded the night before as the NFL MVP is a regular season award. Of course one of the implied criteria is that the MVP's team plays that year at a playoff level of quality. So often in the eventual MVP is in the playoffs at some point.

3. Brees of course won the Super Bowl MVP. His stat line for the game was sick: 32 of 39 for 288 with 2 TDs no picks and a 114.5 passer rating.

SFIAH

Exactly! And the Super Bowl MVP means much more than the regular season MVP, because it means you won it all.

D'uh!

K Major · 12-13-2018, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

3. Brees of course won the Super Bowl MVP. His stat line for the game was sick: 32 of 39 for 288 with 2 TDs no picks and a 114.5 passer rating.

SFIAH

^^^^ This ^^^^. That's all that matters.

foreverfan · 12-13-2018, 06:17 PM

It ain't over until it is over.

llaguardia81 · 12-13-2018, 06:36 PM

Mahommes is very talented and has a bright future. He will have plenty of opportunities to win MVP. If they pass Drew over for him, then I argue the award becomes a complete joke.

The Dude · 12-13-2018, 07:32 PM

Drew doesn’t get the attention he deserves but Rivers really gets the shaft when it comes to media attention and discussion about elite QBs. Rivers has had an excellent career and has performed on an elite level his entire career yet his name is rarely mentioned. At least the national media puts Brees in the discussion when it comes to the HOF or GOAT but Rivers gets treated as an average QB. No, he’s no Brees but he’s been playing at a high level for a very long time. No wonder Eli refused to go to San Diego

st thomas · 12-13-2018, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I bet QB greats Dan Marino & Dan Fouts would gladly exchange that MVP award for a Super Bowl ring.

Brees has one ... working on #2.

U have a point there

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-13-2018, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by llaguardia81

Mahommes is very talented and has a bright future. He will have plenty of opportunities to win MVP. If they pass Drew over for him, then I argue the award becomes a complete joke.

Um, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan already has one while Brees does not. So isn't it really already a joke?

SFIAH

ChrisXVI · 12-13-2018, 09:00 PM

I don’t know if you guys have noticed this trend, but the MVP never wins the Super Bowl nowadays. Check it out:

2017: Tom Brady- Lost Super Bowl
2016: Matt Ryan- Lost Super Bowl
2015: Cam Newton- Lost Super Bowl
2014: Aaron Rodgers- No Super Bowl appearance
2013: Payton Manning- Lost Super Bowl
2012: Adrian Peterson- No Super Bowl appearance
2011: Aaron Rodgers- No Super Bowl appearance
2010: Tom Brady- No Super Bowl appearance
2009: Payton Manning- Lost Super Bowl
2008: Payton Manning- No Super Bowl appearance
2007: Tom Brady- Lost Super Bowl

In fact, the last time the league MVP won the Super Bowl was Kurt Warner in 1999. It’s almost like a curse. If that’s the case, Patrick Mahomes can have the damn thing!

SmashMouth · 12-13-2018, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

It ain't over until it is over.

12-13-2018, 04:22 PM	#11
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Brees ,rivers, mahommes Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Manning threw a pick 6 in Super Bowl in 2009 when he was awarded the MVP. A few finer points: 1. That pick-6 essentially sealed the game. It was a decisive turnover. 2. The MVP was awarded the night before as the NFL MVP is a regular season award. Of course one of the implied criteria is that the MVP's team plays that year at a playoff level of quality. So often in the eventual MVP is in the playoffs at some point. 3. Brees of course won the Super Bowl MVP. His stat line for the game was sick: 32 of 39 for 288 with 2 TDs no picks and a 114.5 passer rating. SFIAH AsylumGuido and K Major like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Brees ,rivers, mahommes Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL A few finer points: 1. That pick-6 essentially sealed the game. It was a decisive turnover. 2. The MVP was awarded the night before as the NFL MVP is a regular season award. Of course one of the implied criteria is that the MVP's team plays that year at a playoff level of quality. So often in the eventual MVP is in the playoffs at some point. 3. Brees of course won the Super Bowl MVP. His stat line for the game was sick: 32 of 39 for 288 with 2 TDs no picks and a 114.5 passer rating. SFIAH Exactly! And the Super Bowl MVP means much more than the regular season MVP, because it means you won it all. D'uh! K Major likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brees ,rivers, mahommes Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL 3. Brees of course won the Super Bowl MVP. His stat line for the game was sick: 32 of 39 for 288 with 2 TDs no picks and a 114.5 passer rating. SFIAH ^^^^ This ^^^^. That's all that matters. AsylumGuido likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Brees ,rivers, mahommes Originally Posted by K Major I bet QB greats Dan Marino & Dan Fouts would gladly exchange that MVP award for a Super Bowl ring. Brees has one ... working on #2. U have a point there

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Brees ,rivers, mahommes Originally Posted by llaguardia81 Mahommes is very talented and has a bright future. He will have plenty of opportunities to win MVP. If they pass Drew over for him, then I argue the award becomes a complete joke. Um, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan already has one while Brees does not. So isn't it really already a joke? SFIAH foreverfan and SmashMouth like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Brees ,rivers, mahommes I don’t know if you guys have noticed this trend, but the MVP never wins the Super Bowl nowadays. Check it out: 2017: Tom Brady- Lost Super Bowl 2016: Matt Ryan- Lost Super Bowl 2015: Cam Newton- Lost Super Bowl 2014: Aaron Rodgers- No Super Bowl appearance 2013: Payton Manning- Lost Super Bowl 2012: Adrian Peterson- No Super Bowl appearance 2011: Aaron Rodgers- No Super Bowl appearance 2010: Tom Brady- No Super Bowl appearance 2009: Payton Manning- Lost Super Bowl 2008: Payton Manning- No Super Bowl appearance 2007: Tom Brady- Lost Super Bowl In fact, the last time the league MVP won the Super Bowl was Kurt Warner in 1999. It’s almost like a curse. If that’s the case, Patrick Mahomes can have the damn thing! foreverfan, TheKillerBs, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.
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