MVP Logic

dam1953 · 12-27-2018, 01:13 PM

If the voters are really objective and base their selection on the criteria historically used in selecting the MVP... there is but one choice.

https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orle...81b23411a.html

homerj07 · 12-27-2018, 05:48 PM

Drew hurt himself over the past 4 weeks. Before Dallas it was his, to lose.

He lost it. Sorry.

I love Drew, just.... no.

WhoDat!656 · 12-27-2018, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Drew hurt himself over the past 4 weeks. Before Dallas it was his, to lose.

He lost it. Sorry.

I love Drew, just.... no.

Brees wasn't the reason the Saints lost to Dallas.

jnormand · 12-27-2018, 06:35 PM

The article makes some good points in favor of Drew. I'd like him to get it and I really think he deserves it, especially after being pushed out of it so many times. My guess is, Mahomes will take it though. His numbers are ridiculous...even if he has a poor record against winning teams.

Brees probably had it, but he dropped off so badly for a few weeks before the Pittsburgh game, that it pushed him out.

If Brees wins it, he better take the Saints through the playoffs and be the Superbowl MVP. Anything less and people will ***** and complain that he didn't deserve it over Mahomes.

SmashMouth · 12-27-2018, 06:59 PM

Didn't we had a thread about just how much of a SB jinx it it is winning the MVP?

dam1953 · 12-27-2018, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

The article makes some good points in favor of Drew. I'd like him to get it and I really think he deserves it, especially after being pushed out of it so many times. My guess is, Mahomes will take it though. His numbers are ridiculous...even if he has a poor record against winning teams.

Brees probably had it, but he dropped off so badly for a few weeks before the Pittsburgh game, that it pushed him out.

If Brees wins it, he better take the Saints through the playoffs and be the Superbowl MVP. Anything less and people will ***** and complain that he didn't deserve it over Mahomes.

Mahomes numbers are rediculous....but still not as good as Brees’ numbers were when he was getting passed over.

hitta · 12-27-2018, 07:16 PM

Here is the thing that annoys me: The rules change when it comes to Drew Brees. Back in 2009 they gave the MVP award to Manning even though Drew had much better stats. "The Colts were having such a great season, and the best player on the best team should win the award. Also, it's Peyton Manning... he's such a good leader... stats don't sum up his contribution.. blah blah blah. "

This year the opposite argument is being used against him. "His stats aren't as good as Mahomes." I'm not saying that Brees should win the MVP award this year. There is no way in ****ing hell he shouldn't have an MVP award though. The media changes the standards on him and he never gets the credit he deserves.

Rugby Saint II · 12-27-2018, 07:45 PM

Unfortunately, this is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league. The last few games are offense has been sluggish which will influence the voters. Not only that if Drew doesn't play against the Panthers then he will be out of sight and out of mind for the voters. Which is ridiculous! However, this is not a Lifetime Achievement Award. It is for the MVP of the season. A lot of folks cannot differentiate between the two.

WW_Who_Dat · 12-27-2018, 07:54 PM

Mahomes is talented guy but in 3 separate games when the game was on the line and it fell to Mahones to perform he failed. He was impatient undisciplined and was not able to perform in a clutch situation. No doubt he has the numbers but he has also failed on the national stage in the spotlight. His day will come.

CharityMike · 12-28-2018, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

Here is the thing that annoys me: The rules change when it comes to Drew Brees. Back in 2009 they gave the MVP award to Manning even though Drew had much better stats. "The Colts were having such a great season, and the best player on the best team should win the award. Also, it's Peyton Manning... he's such a good leader... stats don't sum up his contribution.. blah blah blah. "

This year the opposite argument is being used against him. "His stats aren't as good as Mahomes." I'm not saying that Brees should win the MVP award this year. There is no way in ****ing hell he shouldn't have an MVP award though. The media changes the standards on him and he never gets the credit he deserves.

Lets not forget loosing the MVP to Rodgers because Brees had more INT's. How many does Mahomes have compared to Drew? The teams they have played this season are considerably weaker than what we played. I truly think Drew gets it this time.

12-27-2018, 01:13 PM	#1
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	MVP Logic If the voters are really objective and base their selection on the criteria historically used in selecting the MVP... there is but one choice. https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orle...81b23411a.html

12-27-2018, 05:48 PM	#2
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: MVP Logic Drew hurt himself over the past 4 weeks. Before Dallas it was his, to lose. He lost it. Sorry. I love Drew, just.... no.

12-27-2018, 06:07 PM	#3
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Re: MVP Logic Originally Posted by homerj07 Drew hurt himself over the past 4 weeks. Before Dallas it was his, to lose. He lost it. Sorry. I love Drew, just.... no. Brees wasn't the reason the Saints lost to Dallas. CharityMike likes this.

12-27-2018, 06:35 PM	#4
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: MVP Logic The article makes some good points in favor of Drew. I'd like him to get it and I really think he deserves it, especially after being pushed out of it so many times. My guess is, Mahomes will take it though. His numbers are ridiculous...even if he has a poor record against winning teams. Brees probably had it, but he dropped off so badly for a few weeks before the Pittsburgh game, that it pushed him out. If Brees wins it, he better take the Saints through the playoffs and be the Superbowl MVP. Anything less and people will ***** and complain that he didn't deserve it over Mahomes.

12-27-2018, 06:59 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: MVP Logic Didn't we had a thread about just how much of a SB jinx it it is winning the MVP?

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: MVP Logic Originally Posted by jnormand The article makes some good points in favor of Drew. I'd like him to get it and I really think he deserves it, especially after being pushed out of it so many times. My guess is, Mahomes will take it though. His numbers are ridiculous...even if he has a poor record against winning teams. Brees probably had it, but he dropped off so badly for a few weeks before the Pittsburgh game, that it pushed him out. If Brees wins it, he better take the Saints through the playoffs and be the Superbowl MVP. Anything less and people will ***** and complain that he didn't deserve it over Mahomes. Mahomes numbers are rediculous....but still not as good as Brees’ numbers were when he was getting passed over.

12-27-2018, 07:16 PM	#7
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,320	Re: MVP Logic Here is the thing that annoys me: The rules change when it comes to Drew Brees. Back in 2009 they gave the MVP award to Manning even though Drew had much better stats. "The Colts were having such a great season, and the best player on the best team should win the award. Also, it's Peyton Manning... he's such a good leader... stats don't sum up his contribution.. blah blah blah. " This year the opposite argument is being used against him. "His stats aren't as good as Mahomes." I'm not saying that Brees should win the MVP award this year. There is no way in ****ing hell he shouldn't have an MVP award though. The media changes the standards on him and he never gets the credit he deserves. jnormand, SaintGup, CharityMike and 1 others like this.
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12-27-2018, 07:45 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: MVP Logic Unfortunately, this is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league. The last few games are offense has been sluggish which will influence the voters. Not only that if Drew doesn't play against the Panthers then he will be out of sight and out of mind for the voters. Which is ridiculous! However, this is not a Lifetime Achievement Award. It is for the MVP of the season. A lot of folks cannot differentiate between the two.

12-27-2018, 07:54 PM	#9
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: MVP Logic Mahomes is talented guy but in 3 separate games when the game was on the line and it fell to Mahones to perform he failed. He was impatient undisciplined and was not able to perform in a clutch situation. No doubt he has the numbers but he has also failed on the national stage in the spotlight. His day will come. CharityMike likes this.

12-28-2018, 12:23 AM	#10
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: MVP Logic Originally Posted by hitta Here is the thing that annoys me: The rules change when it comes to Drew Brees. Back in 2009 they gave the MVP award to Manning even though Drew had much better stats. "The Colts were having such a great season, and the best player on the best team should win the award. Also, it's Peyton Manning... he's such a good leader... stats don't sum up his contribution.. blah blah blah. " This year the opposite argument is being used against him. "His stats aren't as good as Mahomes." I'm not saying that Brees should win the MVP award this year. There is no way in ****ing hell he shouldn't have an MVP award though. The media changes the standards on him and he never gets the credit he deserves. Lets not forget loosing the MVP to Rodgers because Brees had more INT's. How many does Mahomes have compared to Drew? The teams they have played this season are considerably weaker than what we played. I truly think Drew gets it this time.

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