Originally Posted by Danno (Post 831778)

I'm pretty sure on every play there are 11 assignments with multiple adjustments on the fly. One bad play can cost dearly, but may be a result of several different mistakes or a key mistake by someone you and I aren't aware of.

Also no one considers the play that would have resulted in an offensive TD that didn't work because someone else didn't do their job correctly. Only the coaches know exactly what went right, and what went wrong on every play on both sides of the ball.

I doubt one player is ever the sole reason a game is won or lost.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 831888)

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 831862)

If you weren't quite so busy being an egotistical smart mouth, you would have read the very next sentence of my post, and might have had just a shred of perspective to be able to respond to me appropriately.

I said "not that any one player single handedly loses a game". That means games where he just made a ton of mistakes that put the team at a massive disadvantage. It's well understood by myself, and anyone else who knows football, that there are other factors that go into it, and it's never quite as simple as just saying it's all one guy's fault.

However, when you are one of the highest paid players in the sport, for the very reason that you are supposed to be smarter than other QB's, and be able to minimize mistakes when other things are going wrong, you can't just go out and lay an egg.

But the thing that always bothered me, again, is not about the fact that he had bad games. Those happen sometimes. It's the fact that you can never criticize him around here, without people like you coming to his rescue to slobber on him and elevate him to some god-like status. It's pathetic.

You same people who defend Brees to the death have NO PROBLEM, whatsoever, blaming other players, and saying how bad a QB sucks if he isn't Drew Brees. Other QB's don't get the excuse of "well, if they blocked better" or "maybe the routes were bad".

You can't just take a simple point for what it is. You have to go straight into comparing Brees to other QB's, to remind me that he's better than them. I DID NOT say that he was not better than most. That's not the point, AT ALL. Can I make that more clear? All I'm saying is be willing to say when he has a bad game. Some of you refuse to do that, and it's intellectually dishonest, as well as just plain annoying.

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 831864)

Danno, if you're talking to me, I'll refer you to my post directly before this one, on the previous page.

Put simply, I never said it was one guy's fault, and made a point of making that clear. But your QB has the highest responsibility to get everything in order, and to not force plays that aren't there. He has forced a lot of throws in his career that have led to some awful mistakes.

That doesn't mean he isn't elite. That's a separate discussion. I'm speaking only to the unwillingness of his fan base to ever admit something IS his fault, or even that he is largely responsible for a loss.

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 831898)

Is this really a thing??
What a joke!

We're talking stats from one meaningless game.
Now all of a sudden TB is better thsn our future HOF quarterback. LOL Ok
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 831903)

my original post was absolutely meant to be satirical.

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 831898)

Is this really a thing??
What a joke!

We're talking stats from one meaningless game.
Now all of a sudden TB is better thsn our future HOF quarterback. LOL Ok
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