I didn't think it was possible

Mr.Riaton · 01-22-2019, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by 73Saint

I don't think it's rigged. The small market argument doesn't cut it for me. Now, if you tell me the refs make a decision to "let them play" more in some games than others, I'll buy it. It was clear they were letting them play. But the egregious nature of this missed call was just so blatant. But I truly do not believe that there was any rigging. It doesn't make sense. Small market or not New Orleans' fan base alone, I would venture to guess that less revenue will be generated from a Rams SB than a Saints SB.

I mostly don't believe there was any rigging either...wouldn't surprise me if there was though. My thoughts are, if the game was in fact rigged,why would they let it come down to a almost last minute play where we could possibly win it? Would if he would've got to Lewis 1 second later? Tommy Would be either made a first down or touch down. Either way,if Would be been ball game. I don't think a fixed game wouldve allowed it to be that close imho.

Srgt. Hulka · 01-22-2019, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

I mostly don't believe there was any rigging either...wouldn't surprise me if there was though. My thoughts are, if the game was in fact rigged,why would they let it come down to a almost last minute play where we could possibly win it? Would if he would've got to Lewis 1 second later? Tommy Would be either made a first down or touch down. Either way,if Would be been ball game. I don't think a fixed game wouldve allowed it to be that close imho.

You must not have seen the holding that the Rams were doing on almost every one of their offensive plays...the whole game. Not one was called that I remember. Why do you think we never laid a hand on Goff?

Rugby Saint II · 01-22-2019, 12:42 PM

We got knocked out of the playoffs last year because Williams did not want to commit that exact same penalty!!!

73Saint · 01-22-2019, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka

You must not have seen the holding that the Rams were doing on almost every one of their offensive plays...the whole game. Not one was called that I remember. Why do you think we never laid a hand on Goff?

I saw the entire game, Sarge. That's just my opinion, game wasn't rigged. You not going to convince me otherwise.

73Saint · 01-22-2019, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We got knocked out of the playoffs last year because Williams did not want to commit that exact same penalty!!!

I saw this brought up somewhere else. The ultimate irony!

neugey · 01-22-2019, 02:58 PM

I have started to calm down a bit today. I wish there would be some independent investigation of the referees involved in the game, but it probably won't happen because of the Shield.

Hopefully rule changes are coming and they are some good ones. Whatever rule changes come, historically they will be directly associated with the insane no-call. Like the Black Sox, this will be remembered for years, decades, generations.

If New England wins the SB, it will simply cement their dynasty. If the Rams win, it will go down in history as the most illegitimate title in NFL history. The Rams franchise would basically be wearing a scarlet letter that everyone knows and sees. You might as well put a Fleur De Lis on their rings. They aren't as lucky as you might think.

foreverfan · 01-22-2019, 05:45 PM

st thomas · 01-22-2019, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I have started to calm down a bit today. I wish there would be some independent investigation of the referees involved in the game, but it probably won't happen because of the Shield.

Hopefully rule changes are coming and they are some good ones. Whatever rule changes come, historically they will be directly associated with the insane no-call. Like the Black Sox, this will be remembered for years, decades, generations.

If New England wins the SB, it will simply cement their dynasty. If the Rams win, it will go down in history as the most illegitimate title in NFL history. The Rams franchise would basically be wearing a scarlet letter that everyone knows and sees. You might as well put a Fleur De Lis on their rings. They aren't as lucky as you might think.

Sports book in Jersey I believe returned all money bet on Saints it was on our local news. They would be the last I would expect to do that. They called it a sham

saintfan · 01-22-2019, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by 73Saint

I saw the entire game, Sarge. That's just my opinion, game wasn't rigged. You not going to convince me otherwise.

Let me try: A professional ref does not simply miss such a blatant call. It wasn't close. It was VERY clearly PI AND helmet to helmet. VERY clear, to millions watching on TV and in person.

Your 'best' ref doesn't miss that call unless he WANTS to miss that call. Otherwise we'd have to consider that ref to be a complete idiot, and if he's a professional level NFL ref he's no idiot.

SO, he deliberately did not make that very obvious call.

There's no question about that.

The only question would be WHY did he deliberately not make that call. That's the million dollar question we can all answer but we'll never verify.

nola_swammi · 01-22-2019, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by 73Saint

I know they aren't the same. I realize we blew it in the Minneapolis Miracle, and this was a completely different scenario. But, all week leading up to the NFCCG I continued to tell myself, "self, it's been a great year, no matter the outcome. Be proud of this team and realize to make it to the final 4 is something special. No broken remotes if we lose! But more importantly, enjoy the rest of the NFL season. The AFCCG, the Superbowl. Remember, you are a fan of the NFL, not just the Saints. Enjoy it no matter what."

I told myself those things, out loud and to myself. Over and over. I convinced myself that I could handle the outcome, no matter what.

I never would have imagined that two days after the NFCCG 2019, I would feel WORSE than I did last year after the Divisional round.

Yet, here we are. I'm so depressed. I can't even imagine how the team feels. I don't even know if I can stomach watching the Superbowl. I have found some solace in watching sportcenter and NFLN, but not a lot. I don't even know why I'm posting this, other than it seems somewhat therapeutic talking about it.

Anyone else?

feeling the same way

01-22-2019, 12:23 PM	#11
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: I didn't think it was possible Originally Posted by 73Saint I don't think it's rigged. The small market argument doesn't cut it for me. Now, if you tell me the refs make a decision to "let them play" more in some games than others, I'll buy it. It was clear they were letting them play. But the egregious nature of this missed call was just so blatant. But I truly do not believe that there was any rigging. It doesn't make sense. Small market or not New Orleans' fan base alone, I would venture to guess that less revenue will be generated from a Rams SB than a Saints SB. I mostly don't believe there was any rigging either...wouldn't surprise me if there was though. My thoughts are, if the game was in fact rigged,why would they let it come down to a almost last minute play where we could possibly win it? Would if he would've got to Lewis 1 second later? Tommy Would be either made a first down or touch down. Either way,if Would be been ball game. I don't think a fixed game wouldve allowed it to be that close imho. OldMaid likes this.

01-22-2019, 12:40 PM	#12
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: I didn't think it was possible Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton I mostly don't believe there was any rigging either...wouldn't surprise me if there was though. My thoughts are, if the game was in fact rigged,why would they let it come down to a almost last minute play where we could possibly win it? Would if he would've got to Lewis 1 second later? Tommy Would be either made a first down or touch down. Either way,if Would be been ball game. I don't think a fixed game wouldve allowed it to be that close imho. You must not have seen the holding that the Rams were doing on almost every one of their offensive plays...the whole game. Not one was called that I remember. Why do you think we never laid a hand on Goff? RailBoss likes this.

01-22-2019, 12:42 PM	#13
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: I didn't think it was possible We got knocked out of the playoffs last year because Williams did not want to commit that exact same penalty!!! saintfan, RailBoss, Rsanders24 and 3 others like this.

01-22-2019, 12:42 PM	#14
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: I didn't think it was possible Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka You must not have seen the holding that the Rams were doing on almost every one of their offensive plays...the whole game. Not one was called that I remember. Why do you think we never laid a hand on Goff? I saw the entire game, Sarge. That's just my opinion, game wasn't rigged. You not going to convince me otherwise. Srgt. Hulka likes this.

01-22-2019, 12:43 PM	#15
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: I didn't think it was possible Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We got knocked out of the playoffs last year because Williams did not want to commit that exact same penalty!!! I saw this brought up somewhere else. The ultimate irony! Rsanders24 and cmike like this.

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01-22-2019, 02:58 PM	#16
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,671 Blog Entries: 13	Re: I didn't think it was possible I have started to calm down a bit today. I wish there would be some independent investigation of the referees involved in the game, but it probably won't happen because of the Shield. Hopefully rule changes are coming and they are some good ones. Whatever rule changes come, historically they will be directly associated with the insane no-call. Like the Black Sox, this will be remembered for years, decades, generations. If New England wins the SB, it will simply cement their dynasty. If the Rams win, it will go down in history as the most illegitimate title in NFL history. The Rams franchise would basically be wearing a scarlet letter that everyone knows and sees. You might as well put a Fleur De Lis on their rings. They aren't as lucky as you might think. 73Saint, st thomas and OldMaid like this.

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01-22-2019, 06:28 PM	#18
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: I didn't think it was possible Originally Posted by neugey I have started to calm down a bit today. I wish there would be some independent investigation of the referees involved in the game, but it probably won't happen because of the Shield. Hopefully rule changes are coming and they are some good ones. Whatever rule changes come, historically they will be directly associated with the insane no-call. Like the Black Sox, this will be remembered for years, decades, generations. If New England wins the SB, it will simply cement their dynasty. If the Rams win, it will go down in history as the most illegitimate title in NFL history. The Rams franchise would basically be wearing a scarlet letter that everyone knows and sees. You might as well put a Fleur De Lis on their rings. They aren't as lucky as you might think. Sports book in Jersey I believe returned all money bet on Saints it was on our local news. They would be the last I would expect to do that. They called it a sham OldMaid likes this.

01-22-2019, 06:33 PM	#19
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: I didn't think it was possible Originally Posted by 73Saint I saw the entire game, Sarge. That's just my opinion, game wasn't rigged. You not going to convince me otherwise. Let me try: A professional ref does not simply miss such a blatant call. It wasn't close. It was VERY clearly PI AND helmet to helmet. VERY clear, to millions watching on TV and in person. Your 'best' ref doesn't miss that call unless he WANTS to miss that call. Otherwise we'd have to consider that ref to be a complete idiot, and if he's a professional level NFL ref he's no idiot. SO, he deliberately did not make that very obvious call. There's no question about that. The only question would be WHY did he deliberately not make that call. That's the million dollar question we can all answer but we'll never verify. WhoDatQB, 73Saint, OldMaid and 1 others like this.
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01-22-2019, 06:43 PM	#20
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: I didn't think it was possible Originally Posted by 73Saint I know they aren't the same. I realize we blew it in the Minneapolis Miracle, and this was a completely different scenario. But, all week leading up to the NFCCG I continued to tell myself, "self, it's been a great year, no matter the outcome. Be proud of this team and realize to make it to the final 4 is something special. No broken remotes if we lose! But more importantly, enjoy the rest of the NFL season. The AFCCG, the Superbowl. Remember, you are a fan of the NFL, not just the Saints. Enjoy it no matter what." I told myself those things, out loud and to myself. Over and over. I convinced myself that I could handle the outcome, no matter what. I never would have imagined that two days after the NFCCG 2019, I would feel WORSE than I did last year after the Divisional round. Yet, here we are. I'm so depressed. I can't even imagine how the team feels. I don't even know if I can stomach watching the Superbowl. I have found some solace in watching sportcenter and NFLN, but not a lot. I don't even know why I'm posting this, other than it seems somewhat therapeutic talking about it. Anyone else? feeling the same way OldMaid likes this.