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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Nobody is gonna want to play against the Saints next season. Especially if we can get our secondary to be up to par with the rest of the team. Screw 'em all and the SB..... Drew and Sean seal the ...

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Old 01-23-2019, 12:15 AM   #21
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Re: I didn't think it was possible

Nobody is gonna want to play against the Saints next season. Especially if we can get our secondary to be up to par with the rest of the team.

Screw 'em all and the SB..... Drew and Sean seal the deal. Sweep the NFC South, take the NFC CHampionship, and make the SB.... win or lose??? It will be another great season!!
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Old 01-23-2019, 04:09 AM   #22
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This is the league delivering yet another disabling gut punch to New Orleans and Sean Payton. End of story. Until we buy some of our own refs, we can continue to expect the same in the future. Getting into the playoffs, despite the refs, during the season, must be our SuperBowl from now on. I am inconsolable.

And, non-calls for certain type plays, especially in the passing game, should be reviewable. But, that doesn't matter now. Either the outcome of this game gets changed by Goodell or we play the last 1.49 minutes of the game with the PI penalty / PF penalty -- otherwise no one has done anything to make this right. You don't have a season like this one very often ( unless of course you are the league's favorite team ... the Pats ).
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:04 AM   #23
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I don't think it's rigged. The small market argument doesn't cut it for me. Now, if you tell me the refs make a decision to "let them play" more in some games than others, I'll buy it. It was clear they were letting them play. But the egregious nature of this missed call was just so blatant. But I truly do not believe that there was any rigging. It doesn't make sense. Small market or not New Orleans' fan base alone, I would venture to guess that less revenue will be generated from a Rams SB than a Saints SB.
Think about that, the NFL DOESN'T care about who WINS it's about MONEY and sales PERIOD. What would make the refs "all of a sudden" play, why not allow that mentality through out the season?, If there's a regular season ref policy vs a post-season then show me. The refs have the ability to change the outcomes of games drastically, you can't even speak against the refs, can't reverse calls, they are like little Rodger Godells on the field. They have Alllll that power and ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY. It's hard to look at your long time sport as a sham, BUT best believe it's not a honest sport, it's ENTERTAINMENT at the end of the day don't forget that.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:06 AM   #24
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The whole refs are "letting them play" is BS and let's you know kind of league it is.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:08 AM   #25
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The refs are TOO inconsistent for me to accept that. If things like this were rare, then ok maybe I could understand, but that wasn't the only terrible no call in that game, I'm talking BLATANT CALLS not 50/50 calls.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:19 AM   #26
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It's amazing to me that "let them play" is a thing. All "let them play" means is, we (the refs) can't get the call right anyway so better a no call than a bad call.
It's dumbest thing ever, so wait you mean to tell the Refs pick and choose what calls to call instead of calling them as they see them. They can say "well today we're going to "let them play" I.E not do our job, but get at me next week I'll be in a more flag throwing mood. Imagi e being able to go to your job and not having ANY ramifications for choosing not to do your job duties and OMG don't let anyone call you out on it, your job fines them. The NFL doesn't let the 'GAME' dictate outcomes they let refs come in and play a factor as well. They should be there to make sure the game is to be played WITH IN these parameters and rules of the game.... not having game changing plays as of they were players of the game
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:30 AM   #27
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And Head Ref Bill Vinovich is a liar too.

I thought I was over the "blatant non call" on Monday but I'm not.
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:04 PM   #28
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Barring a miracle the NFL and the Saints will be in the rear view mirror for me in the near future.

I see no way around that.

Today I woke up thinking about 2009 and the high probability that the NFL exerted its influence to get the Saints into that Superbowl.

Everything in the Goodell era is probably tainted in some fashion.
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:09 PM   #29
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Barring a miracle the NFL and the Saints will be in the rear view mirror for me in the near future.

I see no way around that.

Today I woke up thinking about 2009 and the high probability that the NFL exerted its influence to get the Saints into that Superbowl.

Everything in the Goodell era is probably tainted in some fashion.
Man, you just opened up a can of worms that I hadn't ever thought about. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and sometimes I think it's better not knowing. Now, I wonder...
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Old 01-23-2019, 02:28 PM   #30
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Today I woke up thinking about 2009 and the high probability that the NFL exerted its influence to get the Saints into that Superbowl.
Now that's just crazy talk right there. I know you under stress, we all are feeling blue, but that's just looney tunes talk right there. Go back and remember the feelings: think about those times in 2009.

Everybody was against the Saints, nobody wanted us to be there. Everyone wanted the Vikings to win. Everyone wanted the Cardinals to win. Everyone wanted the Colts and golden boy Peyton Manning to win. Nobody from the league office wanted to help the Saints to get into a Super Bowl, let alone win one. In fact it was the LAST thing they wanted.

What happened was, that year the Saints crashed the party, and came out right out the gate and started racking up the wins, 13 wins in a row, with Drew Brees, a three-headed monster of running backs in Bush/Thomas/Bell, and a defense that was aggressive and got turnovers. Even long before Bountygate, the league was totally against Sean Payton and against Gregg Williams (who already had a reputation) and against the Saints organization. Sean Payton has been a constant thorn in the side of the league, ever since his earliest days in the league as an assistant coach. Tom Benson had his ups and downs over a long career, but as an owner he was no pushover when it came to going up against the league; Benson was a self made man who made his own fortune on the car dealerships, and he had his own ways of operating, and he knew what worked and what didn't. Tom Benson didn't EVER fit in with the slick, glad-handing New York NFL world of backroom deals and the slick and mushy lawyering of Goodell and his cronies. Which is why the naming of the stadium in Canton is such a big deal....it's kind of a quiet middle finger to that whole slick, sleazy, New York management style of Goddell and his current New York NFL gang. The old school NFL and AFL owners of the past were fierce self-made men, not the rich glad-handing, sleazy con artist New York lawyer Goodell types.

It's LUDICROUS to think the league ever wanted the Saints to be in or win a Super Bowl. Get outta here!

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