2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

jeanpierre · 02-02-2019, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ryan has been over hyped since his junior year at Texas A&M. All I see is a nice back up/solid #2 at best.

And that's all I'm saying we should view him as if he were signed; factor experience, Payton offense boost, he'd be better than Bridgewater or the Greatest Overpaid Backup in League History, Chase Daniels...

saintsfan1976 · 02-03-2019, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ryan has been over hyped since his junior year at Texas A&M. All I see is a nice back up/solid #2 at best.

That’s my point. If Bridgewater is gone we’ll need a #2.

jeanpierre · 02-03-2019, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Possibly. Oak is very good veteran depth that can start. Over the years I've noticed that the Saints FO has been very loyal to players ... even to a fault. Meanwhile pre injury, Davenport (pretty vicious run defender) was on his way to becoming a monster. I'd like him to take over that spot in 2019.

I continue to believe that he (MD) is the future coming off the edge.

For what Payton's invested with him, I agree, he should be starting...

Why wouldn't you pay Okafor to stick around as a rotation/reserve/depth while you can afford it with Davenport in a rookie contract?

We'd return all four of our edge rushers and could focus on fewer positions...

shawnkytonk · 02-03-2019, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Established? Bucs kept rolling out O.J. Howard instead of Brate...

Plus, if Payton had liked Brate that much, why'd we let him get out of the house?!?

You're excluding the years before Howard when Brate was the #1 guy and a pretty decent TD machine in the redzone. I'm in no way advocating a Brate signing, but I stand by my statement that he's way more of an established presence than James. James sparks zero excitement in anyway.

jeanpierre · 02-04-2019, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

You're excluding the years before Howard when Brate was the #1 guy and a pretty decent TD machine in the redzone. I'm in no way advocating a Brate signing, but I stand by my statement that he's way more of an established presence than James. James sparks zero excitement in anyway.

Blocking. You're forgetting about blocking which Brate is not built to do. Drafting an offensive lineman isn't exciting, but it wins games...

Go back and look and when the Steelers were running teams into the ground, you'll find Jesse James blocking and making a complimentary reception...

That's what you need a complimentary player that doesn't break the bank...

jeanpierre · 02-04-2019, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

That’s my point. If Bridgewater is gone we’ll need a #2.

Bridgewater is supposed to be the target of both the Jags and Dolphins, which I buy that theory - that may also net us a No. 3 compensatory pick in 2020...

Tanneyhill could be attracted to come in on a short-term two year deal to learn from Payton, Brees and then reboot somewhere afterwards...

The guy is good enough to win in short stretches, should that need arise - it's not like this offense isn't without teeth when Brees takes a breather...

Could you imagine us gaining a starter as a reserve and a Rd 3 pick for giving up a 3rd rounder and our backup? That'd be a sweet save...

jeanpierre · 02-04-2019, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Like I said if we trade up again this year it will be for a TE.

Bite your tongue - Don't geaux encouraging Payton so he can get off early and go play golf...

K Major · 02-04-2019, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Why in the world would you want Jesse James then? Brate is a much more established TE.

I'd be fine with either. Gotta believe in clutch moments (see Rams NFCCG), James makes a crucial catch or keep the chains moving.

jeanpierre · 02-04-2019, 09:56 AM

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02-02-2019, 11:04 PM	#61
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by K Major Ryan has been over hyped since his junior year at Texas A&M. All I see is a nice back up/solid #2 at best. And that's all I'm saying we should view him as if he were signed; factor experience, Payton offense boost, he'd be better than Bridgewater or the Greatest Overpaid Backup in League History, Chase Daniels... saintsfan1976 and ChrisXVI like this.

02-03-2019, 07:13 AM	#62
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by K Major Ryan has been over hyped since his junior year at Texas A&M. All I see is a nice back up/solid #2 at best. That’s my point. If Bridgewater is gone we’ll need a #2.

02-03-2019, 02:31 PM	#63
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by K Major Possibly. Oak is very good veteran depth that can start. Over the years I've noticed that the Saints FO has been very loyal to players ... even to a fault. Meanwhile pre injury, Davenport (pretty vicious run defender) was on his way to becoming a monster. I'd like him to take over that spot in 2019. I continue to believe that he (MD) is the future coming off the edge. For what Payton's invested with him, I agree, he should be starting... Why wouldn't you pay Okafor to stick around as a rotation/reserve/depth while you can afford it with Davenport in a rookie contract? We'd return all four of our edge rushers and could focus on fewer positions... Rugby Saint II and MarchingOn like this.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre Established? Bucs kept rolling out O.J. Howard instead of Brate... Plus, if Payton had liked Brate that much, why'd we let him get out of the house?!? You're excluding the years before Howard when Brate was the #1 guy and a pretty decent TD machine in the redzone. I'm in no way advocating a Brate signing, but I stand by my statement that he's way more of an established presence than James. James sparks zero excitement in anyway.

02-04-2019, 12:53 AM	#65
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by shawnkytonk You're excluding the years before Howard when Brate was the #1 guy and a pretty decent TD machine in the redzone. I'm in no way advocating a Brate signing, but I stand by my statement that he's way more of an established presence than James. James sparks zero excitement in anyway. Blocking. You're forgetting about blocking which Brate is not built to do. Drafting an offensive lineman isn't exciting, but it wins games... Go back and look and when the Steelers were running teams into the ground, you'll find Jesse James blocking and making a complimentary reception... That's what you need a complimentary player that doesn't break the bank... saintsfan1976 likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 That’s my point. If Bridgewater is gone we’ll need a #2. Bridgewater is supposed to be the target of both the Jags and Dolphins, which I buy that theory - that may also net us a No. 3 compensatory pick in 2020... Tanneyhill could be attracted to come in on a short-term two year deal to learn from Payton, Brees and then reboot somewhere afterwards... The guy is good enough to win in short stretches, should that need arise - it's not like this offense isn't without teeth when Brees takes a breather... Could you imagine us gaining a starter as a reserve and a Rd 3 pick for giving up a 3rd rounder and our backup? That'd be a sweet save... saintsfan1976 likes this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by CheramieIII Like I said if we trade up again this year it will be for a TE. Bite your tongue - Don't geaux encouraging Payton so he can get off early and go play golf...

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