2019 Saints NFL Free Agency

jeanpierre · 03-13-2019, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Eric Berry is available...and I want him here.

So you move Mr. Marcus to SS? How much are we gonna have to spend on Berry? Not sure that's viable...

Don't be surprised if Coleman is right back here at a cheaper number...

Saints Front Office are trusting the PFF-type analytics and believe Vonn Bell's is trending up, despite very shaky, inconsistent pass coverage...

rezburna · 03-13-2019, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So you move Mr. Marcus to SS? How much are we gonna have to spend on Berry? Not sure that's viable...

Don't be surprised if Coleman is right back here at a cheaper number...

Saints Front Office are trusting the PFF-type analytics and believe Vonn Bell's is trending up, despite very shaky, inconsistent pass coverage...

I’d move Mr. Marcus to the bench for Eric Berry. I saw an improvement from Bell...I really did...but I feel like we could definitely upgrade both spots.

jeanpierre · 03-13-2019, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d move Mr. Marcus to the bench for Eric Berry. I saw an improvement from Bell...I really did...but I feel like we could definitely upgrade both spots.

So in the case of PFF Graders, you'd say they got it wrong in 2018 when Mr. Marcus gets 70.28 grade on the year and Berry got a 62.4?

Don't mis-read me, I'm not saying PFF is an absolute (I often take them to task via Twitter to justify their grade); I've always liked Berry and his game (when healthy), but at age 29???

And while Mr. Marcus showed some regression vs his outstanding rookie season where he was ranked as a Top 3 safety - I'd stay with the younger Mr. Marcus and look at coaching, scheme of Dennis Allen...

Personally I'd love'd to have locked up the secondary with a big physical Strong Safety who could mirror TEs or WR-X in the red zone, or something fierce like a Honey Badger...

With today's cap and the Saints always playing right up against it, there's just no room to go and make any big splashes - we'll have to temper our expectations...

rezburna · 03-13-2019, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So in the case of PFF Graders, you'd say they got it wrong in 2018 when Mr. Marcus gets 70.28 grade on the year and Berry got a 62.4?

Don't mis-read me, I'm not saying PFF is an absolute (I often take them to task via Twitter to justify their grade); I've always liked Berry and his game (when healthy), but at age 29???

And while Mr. Marcus showed some regression vs his outstanding rookie season where he was ranked as a Top 3 safety - I'd stay with the younger Mr. Marcus and look at coaching, scheme of Dennis Allen...

Personally I'd love'd to have locked up the secondary with a big physical Strong Safety who could mirror TEs or WR-X in the red zone, or something fierce like a Honey Badger...

With today's cap and the Saints always playing right up against it, there's just no room to go and make any big splashes - we'll have to temper our expectations...

I think those PFF grades are pretty accurate for both players. Eric Berry looked like a guy who was trying to get back into football shape. I think that rust will be gone this upcoming season. Elite safeties like him play at a high level for a long time. I agree though, the cap definitely restricts us. We have to shop in the bargain bin. Who knows though, Berry might come cheaper than we think.

jeanpierre · 03-13-2019, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Who knows though, Berry might come cheaper than we think.

Well, that's the thing though - Tight Ends and Safeties were suppose to be cheap this year because of a flooded FA market and draft depth...

Then Baltimore went and paid a third-string TE $6mil/annum and you got teams like the Raiders and Titans blowing the safety market out of the water...

Mickster/Payton calculus was like everyone else and still have realized you gotta keep that draft capital for a backup plan...

Eventually the undrafted free agency gemstone mine is gonna run outta gems...

03-13-2019, 10:15 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by rezburna Eric Berry is available...and I want him here. So you move Mr. Marcus to SS? How much are we gonna have to spend on Berry? Not sure that's viable... Don't be surprised if Coleman is right back here at a cheaper number... Saints Front Office are trusting the PFF-type analytics and believe Vonn Bell's is trending up, despite very shaky, inconsistent pass coverage...

03-13-2019, 10:32 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre So you move Mr. Marcus to SS? How much are we gonna have to spend on Berry? Not sure that's viable... Don't be surprised if Coleman is right back here at a cheaper number... Saints Front Office are trusting the PFF-type analytics and believe Vonn Bell's is trending up, despite very shaky, inconsistent pass coverage... I’d move Mr. Marcus to the bench for Eric Berry. I saw an improvement from Bell...I really did...but I feel like we could definitely upgrade both spots.

03-13-2019, 10:46 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by rezburna I’d move Mr. Marcus to the bench for Eric Berry. I saw an improvement from Bell...I really did...but I feel like we could definitely upgrade both spots. So in the case of PFF Graders, you'd say they got it wrong in 2018 when Mr. Marcus gets 70.28 grade on the year and Berry got a 62.4? Don't mis-read me, I'm not saying PFF is an absolute (I often take them to task via Twitter to justify their grade); I've always liked Berry and his game (when healthy), but at age 29??? And while Mr. Marcus showed some regression vs his outstanding rookie season where he was ranked as a Top 3 safety - I'd stay with the younger Mr. Marcus and look at coaching, scheme of Dennis Allen... Personally I'd love'd to have locked up the secondary with a big physical Strong Safety who could mirror TEs or WR-X in the red zone, or something fierce like a Honey Badger... With today's cap and the Saints always playing right up against it, there's just no room to go and make any big splashes - we'll have to temper our expectations...
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03-13-2019, 10:54 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre So in the case of PFF Graders, you'd say they got it wrong in 2018 when Mr. Marcus gets 70.28 grade on the year and Berry got a 62.4? Don't mis-read me, I'm not saying PFF is an absolute (I often take them to task via Twitter to justify their grade); I've always liked Berry and his game (when healthy), but at age 29??? And while Mr. Marcus showed some regression vs his outstanding rookie season where he was ranked as a Top 3 safety - I'd stay with the younger Mr. Marcus and look at coaching, scheme of Dennis Allen... Personally I'd love'd to have locked up the secondary with a big physical Strong Safety who could mirror TEs or WR-X in the red zone, or something fierce like a Honey Badger... With today's cap and the Saints always playing right up against it, there's just no room to go and make any big splashes - we'll have to temper our expectations... I think those PFF grades are pretty accurate for both players. Eric Berry looked like a guy who was trying to get back into football shape. I think that rust will be gone this upcoming season. Elite safeties like him play at a high level for a long time. I agree though, the cap definitely restricts us. We have to shop in the bargain bin. Who knows though, Berry might come cheaper than we think.

03-13-2019, 10:57 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Free Agency Originally Posted by rezburna Who knows though, Berry might come cheaper than we think. Well, that's the thing though - Tight Ends and Safeties were suppose to be cheap this year because of a flooded FA market and draft depth... Then Baltimore went and paid a third-string TE $6mil/annum and you got teams like the Raiders and Titans blowing the safety market out of the water... Mickster/Payton calculus was like everyone else and still have realized you gotta keep that draft capital for a backup plan... Eventually the undrafted free agency gemstone mine is gonna run outta gems...

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