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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Interesting that Zenner competed with Washington for a roster spot in Lions training camp to in 2016. Now he's back again, he's basically battling Washington again for a crack at that same third and last RB spot....

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Old 09-04-2019, 09:56 AM   #451
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Interesting that Zenner competed with Washington for a roster spot in Lions training camp to in 2016. Now he's back again, he's basically battling Washington again for a crack at that same third and last RB spot.
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – Week 1: New Orleans Saints vs Houston Texans

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington

FB (1) 42 - Zach Line

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood

WR-S (1) 80 - Austin Carr

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

TE (2) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 99 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019)
93 - David Onyemata (SUS-GM 1)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso (Trade MIA), 53 - A.J. Klein

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019)

Practice Squad

RS 44 - Taquan Mizzel (UDFA BAL/CHI 2017)

LG 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019)

RG65 - John Leglue (UDFA DEN 2019)

TE 85 - Dan Arnold

TE 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

DE 70 - Mitchell Loewen (FA 2019)

FS 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

SS 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 23; Defense: 26 (1 Suspension); Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 10


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

76 - Kenny Bigelow (UDFA 2019)

79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019)

30 - Matt Dayes (FA 2019)

65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)

45 - Garrett Griffin

51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019)

40 - Will Compton (FA 2019)

54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)


Reserve/Retired

74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2019)


Exempt/Commissioner Exemption

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

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Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – Week 1: New Orleans Saints vs Houston Texans

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington

FB (1) 42 - Zach Line

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood

WR-S (1) 80 - Austin Carr

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

TE (2) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 99 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019)
93 - David Onyemata (SUS-GM 1)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244)

SLB (2) 54 - Kiko Alonso (Trade MIA), 53 - A.J. Klein

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019)

Practice Squad

RS 44 - Taquan Mizzel (UDFA BAL/CHI 2017)

LG 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019)

RG65 - John Leglue (UDFA DEN 2019)

TE 85 - Dan Arnold

TE 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

DE 70 - Mitchell Loewen (FA 2019)

FS 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

SS 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 23; Defense: 26 (1 Suspension); Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 10


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

76 - Kenny Bigelow (UDFA 2019)

79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019)

30 - Matt Dayes (FA 2019)

65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)

45 - Garrett Griffin

51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019)

40 - Will Compton (FA 2019)

54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)


Reserve/Retired

74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2019)


Exempt/Commissioner Exemption

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP
Alonso took Klein’s job?
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Alonso took Klein’s job?
Okay, so according to the presser shared by Ms Amie Just, Kiko's backing up Anzalone at MLB...

However, Alonso played Mike backer his rookie year; Alonso, 6' 3", 239 lbs, was moved to the weak-side his second year in BUF, but injured his knee and was lost for the season...

In 2015, PHI HC Chip Kelly traded LeSean McCoy for Alonso, who he'd coached at Oregon; but PHI was already set with DeMeco Ryans and Mychal Kendricks...

By season's end, Chip Kelly was gone and Alonso was traded to MIA...

In 2016, MIA started Alonso at MLB, but soon moved him to the WLB as BUF had planned where he could cover on the outside, he blew up with a terrific season...

In 2017, MIA placed a first round tender on him and signed him to his current contract; they also left him at WLB...

Fast forward to this season where MIA is Tanking for Tua, and they unloaded his contract with the Saints who wanted more experience than rookie Kaden Ellis has at MLB, and can play and run on the outside...

That said, if Anzalone is healthy, it's either him or Alonso at the MIKE, likely Anzalone who played awesomely last year for us at the MIKE...

And Alonso is not replacing DeMario Davis at the WILL, so it would seem Alonso with be a very fast SAM backer, but Anzalone could also kick out to SAM...

If we're putting the best three LBers on the field, that 33% of the time we're not in nickel or dime packages, then it's Davis, Anzalone, and Alonso...

They're also the only three LBers that can play all three LBer spots in a 4-3; Robertson, if healthy, can play WILL, MIKE; Rookie Kaden Ellis is for sure a MIKE; and Klein can play SAM and MIKE...

So following that progression, expect Alonso would be put at SAM or MIKE, likely SAM, as it's a shorter learning curve; Anzalone would take the other spot, likely MIKE, where he excelled last year...

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Okay, so according to the presser shared by Ms Amie Just, Kiko's backing up Anzalone at MLB...

However, Alonso played Mike backer his rookie year; Alonso, 6' 3", 239 lbs, was moved to the weak-side his second year in BUF, but injured his knee and was lost for the season...

In 2015, PHI HC Chip Kelly traded LeSean McCoy for Alonso, who he'd coached at Oregon; but PHI was already set with DeMeco Ryans and Mychal Kendricks...

By season's end, Chip Kelly was gone and Alonso was traded to MIA...

In 2016, MIA started Alonso at MLB, but soon moved him to the WLB as BUF had planned where he could cover on the outside, he blew up with a terrific season...

In 2017, MIA placed a first round tender on him and signed him to his current contract; they also left him at WLB...

Fast forward to this season where MIA is Tanking for Tua, and they unloaded his contract with the Saints who wanted more experience than rookie Kaden Ellis has at MLB, and can play and run on the outside...

That said, if Anzalone is healthy, it's either him or Alonso at the MIKE, likely Anzalone who played awesomely last year for us at the MIKE...

And Alonso is not replacing DeMario Davis at the WILL, so it would seem Alonso with be a very fast SAM backer, but Anzalone could also kick out to SAM...

If we're putting the best three LBers on the field, that 33% of the time we're not in nickel or dime packages, then it's Davis, Anzalone, and Alonso...

They're also the only three LBers that can play all three LBer spots in a 4-3; Robertson, if healthy, can play WILL, MIKE; Rookie Kaden Ellis is for sure a MIKE; and Klein can play SAM and MIKE...

So following that progression, expect Alonso would be put at SAM or MIKE, likely SAM, as it's a shorter learning curve; Anzalone would take the other spot, likely MIKE, where he excelled last year...
So basically what you're saying is that we have pretty darn good depth.
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Old 09-06-2019, 10:18 AM   #458
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Don't know what's going on in practice, but I sure hope Greenidge, Villanova alum, is the goods; because when Armstead goes down again, Ramcyzk can't play LT/RT at the same time...

And while I've been a Peat advocate, he was underrated as a LG/LT, I'm thoroughly disappointed with his conditioning going into training camp - as a professional athlete with NFL resources, that's indefensible...

Now he may have had an injury that limited him, but there are ways to condition around injuries, especially with the kinesiology available to these guys today...


LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)
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One of the reasons I was excited about Will Clapp, besides being a home-grown product of Louisiana, was that he could swing between all three interior positions and was a capable Right Tackle...

He needs to get much stronger and get serious in the weight room, especially with respected to his arms - this guy should have a serious set of guns on him...
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DE 70 - Mitchell Loewen (FA 2019) ... if Mitch can get healthy, he can help.
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