Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams

K Major · 04-03-2019, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Still need another DE who can rotate in and effectively pressure the passer. I'm hoping Ansah comes to Nola after the draft.

I hope so too. If the medical check comes back ok, I think he gets signed.

jeanpierre · 04-03-2019, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Still need another DE who can rotate in and effectively pressure the passer. I'm hoping Ansah comes to Nola after the draft.

Actually, Edwards was the starting DE in OAK across from Khalil Mack just a couple of years ago; he wasn't a great edge rusher, but was good for 4~6 sacks and decent pressure...

Edwards was signed before other edge rushers because of his versatility he brings as both a DT3 and SDE. In the depth chart excerpt I have here, you can kinda see where we are and illustrates my point...

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 99 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 76 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins (IR), 93 - David Onyemata, 99 - Tomasi Laulile (RFC 2019)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson

Now, the injury to Rankins and possible looming discipline for Onyemata jumps out immediately and is why Edwards was signed as he can play at that DT3 spot...

As things are, we have a three-man rotation at DE (Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson) and a three-man rotation at DT/NT (Brown, Stallworth, Edwards) to start the season...

Anything Laulile, formerly a DE, can offer is lagñiappe in addition to the 3-man rotation among the DTs, but he's likely a camp body, practice squad development project...

Point I'd make is there's no guarantee Rankins makes it back for this season; and, Big O likely misses four (4) games; so we have need for a true pass rushing DT3 to reduce wear, tear...

While Edwards can rotate as a DT3, you still need a big DE end that can set that edge; my criticism of record of the Davenport trade set aside, Davenport has yet to play a full season as the starting DE...

For my money, I'd leave Edwards right where he is, taking pressure off of Davenport and making the DE position one of strength, elite depth as it was last season...

Let's focus on getting a DT3 who can come in with Big "O" and offer some pop now, rotate with Edwards the first four games (hopefully) and give us options downstream...

And if Rankins, who's been on IR/PUP every season of his career, doesn't fully recover, the team having a young DT3 has options with impending contract extensions on the horizon...

CheramieIII · 04-03-2019, 06:57 AM

Good signing!

K Major · 04-03-2019, 07:32 AM

PJ had his highs and lows in 2018 however I believe he's a starter for a lot of other NFL teams. Decent in zone and can play slot.

Definitely don't want to be looking for "just another guy" off the couch late in the season.

As others have stated, I'm glad PJ is back too.

voodooido · 04-03-2019, 09:13 AM

5 million for a cb thats 4th string and gets smoked every other play.

AsylumGuido · 04-03-2019, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

5 million for a cb thats 4th string and gets smoked every other play.

Five million isn't what it used to be even recently as ten years ago.

SmashMouth · 04-03-2019, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Five million isn't what it used to be even recently as ten years ago.

Tell that to the little people out there...

jeanpierre · 04-04-2019, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

5 million for a cb thats 4th string and gets smoked every other play.

Look at what little draft capital we still have and how few quality CBs there are in this year's draft; not to mention what little was on the free agency market...

That offer was cash, one year, he's off the market, and Payton/Loomis just bought themselves of notable cap expense, another year to acquire either draft capital to replace him or next season's free agency...

At the end of the day, not many guys want to be a 4th CB on a team; he definitely improved as he got more snaps, opportunities and he already knows the system, locker room...

ChrisXVI · 04-03-2019, 03:43 PM

I’m not really sure why Onyemata would be suspended. He wasn’t arrested and he didn’t fail a drug test.

jeanpierre · 04-04-2019, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I’m not really sure why Onyemata would be suspended. He wasn’t arrested and he didn’t fail a drug test.

Great Point.

First infraction involving League banned substances usual consequences entail that a player gets a warning notification, along with...

The player is put into the league evaluation and assessment system, a probation of sorts...

This includes league education of banned substances and recognizing substance abuse. Mandated abstinence not only from banned substances, but alcohol...

Upon completion of the League self-awareness, self-evaluation program, they are also strongly encouraged to do more community service with their down time as idle minds are the Devil's playground...

But the Big O can expect many last minute dates in the bathroom with a stranger that has a fetish for his piss for the rest of his playing career...

04-03-2019, 07:09 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Still need another DE who can rotate in and effectively pressure the passer. I'm hoping Ansah comes to Nola after the draft. I hope so too. If the medical check comes back ok, I think he gets signed.

04-03-2019, 02:14 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Still need another DE who can rotate in and effectively pressure the passer. I'm hoping Ansah comes to Nola after the draft. Actually, Edwards was the starting DE in OAK across from Khalil Mack just a couple of years ago; he wasn't a great edge rusher, but was good for 4~6 sacks and decent pressure... Edwards was signed before other edge rushers because of his versatility he brings as both a DT3 and SDE. In the depth chart excerpt I have here, you can kinda see where we are and illustrates my point... DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 99 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 76 - Taylor Stallworth DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins (IR), 93 - David Onyemata, 99 - Tomasi Laulile (RFC 2019) LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson Now, the injury to Rankins and possible looming discipline for Onyemata jumps out immediately and is why Edwards was signed as he can play at that DT3 spot... As things are, we have a three-man rotation at DE (Jordan, Davenport, Hendrickson) and a three-man rotation at DT/NT (Brown, Stallworth, Edwards) to start the season... Anything Laulile, formerly a DE, can offer is lagñiappe in addition to the 3-man rotation among the DTs, but he's likely a camp body, practice squad development project... Point I'd make is there's no guarantee Rankins makes it back for this season; and, Big O likely misses four (4) games; so we have need for a true pass rushing DT3 to reduce wear, tear... While Edwards can rotate as a DT3, you still need a big DE end that can set that edge; my criticism of record of the Davenport trade set aside, Davenport has yet to play a full season as the starting DE... For my money, I'd leave Edwards right where he is, taking pressure off of Davenport and making the DE position one of strength, elite depth as it was last season... Let's focus on getting a DT3 who can come in with Big "O" and offer some pop now, rotate with Edwards the first four games (hopefully) and give us options downstream... And if Rankins, who's been on IR/PUP every season of his career, doesn't fully recover, the team having a young DT3 has options with impending contract extensions on the horizon... foreverfan likes this.
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04-03-2019, 06:57 AM	#3
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams Good signing!

04-03-2019, 07:32 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams PJ had his highs and lows in 2018 however I believe he's a starter for a lot of other NFL teams. Decent in zone and can play slot. Definitely don't want to be looking for "just another guy" off the couch late in the season. As others have stated, I'm glad PJ is back too. SaintGnome likes this.

04-03-2019, 09:13 AM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,844	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams 5 million for a cb thats 4th string and gets smoked every other play.
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04-03-2019, 11:03 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,759	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams Originally Posted by voodooido 5 million for a cb thats 4th string and gets smoked every other play. Five million isn't what it used to be even recently as ten years ago.

04-03-2019, 11:48 AM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,019 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Five million isn't what it used to be even recently as ten years ago. Tell that to the little people out there... Crusader and jeanpierre like this.

04-04-2019, 01:31 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams Originally Posted by voodooido 5 million for a cb thats 4th string and gets smoked every other play. Look at what little draft capital we still have and how few quality CBs there are in this year's draft; not to mention what little was on the free agency market... That offer was cash, one year, he's off the market, and Payton/Loomis just bought themselves of notable cap expense, another year to acquire either draft capital to replace him or next season's free agency... At the end of the day, not many guys want to be a 4th CB on a team; he definitely improved as he got more snaps, opportunities and he already knows the system, locker room...
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04-03-2019, 03:43 PM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams I’m not really sure why Onyemata would be suspended. He wasn’t arrested and he didn’t fail a drug test. AsylumGuido and jeanpierre like this.

04-04-2019, 01:26 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints Re-Sign CB PJ Williams Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I’m not really sure why Onyemata would be suspended. He wasn’t arrested and he didn’t fail a drug test. Great Point. First infraction involving League banned substances usual consequences entail that a player gets a warning notification, along with... The player is put into the league evaluation and assessment system, a probation of sorts... This includes league education of banned substances and recognizing substance abuse. Mandated abstinence not only from banned substances, but alcohol... Upon completion of the League self-awareness, self-evaluation program, they are also strongly encouraged to do more community service with their down time as idle minds are the Devil's playground... But the Big O can expect many last minute dates in the bathroom with a stranger that has a fetish for his piss for the rest of his playing career...
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