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Rsanders24 04-20-2019 05:48 PM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842823)
No way would I draft him if he fell all the way to round 5. He abandoned his college team what makes you think he won’t pull a Levon bell in a contract season? He’s about greedy. It’s all in his name.

Unfortunately with the BCS Playoffs only having 4 slots this will be the new trend for most players who are told they are a first round pick and not playing in one of those games. He was widely believed to be a top 15 pick and still could be. I wasn’t to pleased that he skipped out on his team for the bowl game but I understand why at the same time. He at least fought to the end of the last game of the regular season. For some of these guys they are thinking of their families and trying to set themselves up to take care of kids and parents. I would have to think about it myself if we are talking millions.

rezburna 04-20-2019 07:46 PM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842823)
No way would I draft him if he fell all the way to round 5. He abandoned his college team what makes you think he won’t pull a Levon bell in a contract season? He’s about greedy. It’s all in his name.

Greedy Williams is the Marshon Lattimore of this draft. 6’2” with 4.3 speed and fluid hips. He can actually come in and play a wider variety of coverages than Lattimore did. Marshon was strictly a man to man guy, but Greedy can do it all. This is why I asked for what reason would he fall? The guy is an instant starter at the next level, and I wouldn’t play in a meaningless bowl game either when I’m trying to go to the next level. None of these fans are going to cover his loss of finance if he was to suffer a serious injury. All the “prayers for Greedy” in the world won’t make up for that.

neugey 04-20-2019 08:57 PM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
I just never like to see us trade up and trade out of future picks. But if I need to eat crow as I did with Kamara then I do have extra BBQ sauce on hand.

Rsanders24 04-21-2019 10:02 AM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 842835)
Greedy Williams is the Marshon Lattimore of this draft. 6’2” with 4.3 speed and fluid hips. He can actually come in and play a wider variety of coverages than Lattimore did. Marshon was strictly a man to man guy, but Greedy can do it all. This is why I asked for what reason would he fall? The guy is an instant starter at the next level, and I wouldn’t play in a meaningless bowl game either when I’m trying to go to the next level. None of these fans are going to cover his loss of finance if he was to suffer a serious injury. All the “prayers for Greedy” in the world won’t make up for that.

I agree with you 100%. I also have been trying to research to see why several mock drafts have him falling into the second round. The only think that I’ve found is that some are saying that he is unwilling to stick his head in run support. I personally don’t think that he will fall out of the first round but hence the reason I asked is because while I defense was better the pass defense was still among the worst in the league.

Rugby Saint II 04-21-2019 11:54 AM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
Stand pat for BPA.

voodooido 04-21-2019 05:57 PM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 842835)
Greedy Williams is the Marshon Lattimore of this draft. 6’2” with 4.3 speed and fluid hips. He can actually come in and play a wider variety of coverages than Lattimore did. Marshon was strictly a man to man guy, but Greedy can do it all. This is why I asked for what reason would he fall? The guy is an instant starter at the next level, and I wouldn’t play in a meaningless bowl game either when I’m trying to go to the next level. None of these fans are going to cover his loss of finance if he was to suffer a serious injury. All the “prayers for Greedy” in the world won’t make up for that.

How many players better than greedy played in “meaningless “ games to support their team and the fans/college that supported them? Your point is invalid. It’s about the heart and dedication not about the money. When you get old and look back at your life are you enjoying memories or saying “boy I sure did make a lot of money”?

Rsanders24 04-21-2019 07:49 PM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842855)
How many players better than greedy played in “meaningless “ games to support their team and the fans/college that supported them? Your point is invalid. It’s about the heart and dedication not about the money. When you get old and look back at your life are you enjoying memories or saying “boy I sure did make a lot of money”?

Fact of the matter is this is the new trend and this was really brought on by the changes to the BCS Bowl games. And regarding your comment that is not about the money is silly. If it wasn’t the NFL wouldn’t be a multi-billion dollar industry. It’s a major part of it especially for a young player that grew up with nothing. The same could be said for many players in the NFL that jump to a team that is in worse standing just for more money. Skill players are prone to take the biggest fall if they get hurt.

rezburna 04-21-2019 09:20 PM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842855)
How many players better than greedy played in “meaningless “ games to support their team and the fans/college that supported them? Your point is invalid. It’s about the heart and dedication not about the money. When you get old and look back at your life are you enjoying memories or saying “boy I sure did make a lot of money”?

If I’m Greedy Williams I’m thinking back on the wonderful times I had getting drafted and being in the NFL. I’m also cherishing the fact I was able to change the lives of my family by the wealth I accrued while playing football. I’m not dwelling on a meaningless bowl game that only exists as a cash grab for television networks and the universities. I suppose it’s okay for them to exploit the athletes and make money though.

saintfan 04-21-2019 10:36 PM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842855)
How many players better than greedy played in “meaningless “ games to support their team and the fans/college that supported them? Your point is invalid. It’s about the heart and dedication not about the money. When you get old and look back at your life are you enjoying memories or saying “boy I sure did make a lot of money”?

I don't know if I were in his cleats if I would play or not, but I'm 100% not going to hold it against him for protecting his career. It IS about the money. I think it's disingenuous to say that it isn't, and there's not a single thing wrong about that.

Hey, it's a fine line, particularly from a fan perspective. I get it. But there is more money at stake than most people will see in a lifetime.

voodooido 04-21-2019 11:03 PM

Re: Greedy Williams
 
I guess it’s a youth movement that you last three speak of. It’s a self entitlement generation. I’m more inclined to support the devin white players than the greedy players. I want heart. I want a player who refuses to leave the field. I want the kid who plays like he is still in peewee. For me it’s all about the heart, not the bank. A player that follows the bank will do in the pros what greedy did in college. If it’s a contract year you think he’s going to play hurt? If he refused to play in a “meaningless” college game for a chance to make money don’t you think he will sit pro games for even more? When does the selfishness end?


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