Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842859)

I guess it’s a youth movement that you last three speak of. It’s a self entitlement generation. I’m more inclined to support the devin white players than the greedy players. I want heart. I want a player who refuses to leave the field. I want the kid who plays like he is still in peewee. For me it’s all about the heart, not the bank. A player that follows the bank will do in the pros what greedy did in college. If it’s a contract year you think he’s going to play hurt? If he refused to play in a “meaningless” college game for a chance to make money don’t you think he will sit pro games for even more? When does the selfishness end?

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842855)

How many players better than greedy played in “meaningless “ games to support their team and the fans/college that supported them? Your point is invalid. It’s about the heart and dedication not about the money. When you get old and look back at your life are you enjoying memories or saying “boy I sure did make a lot of money”?

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 842868)

Will Grier (QB) ... Saints have shown a TON in interest @ Pro Day, personal visit, workout etc. A QB of all positions, skipped out on his Bowl game to prepare for the draft. Should we lump this kid into the "lack heart & dedication aspect" as well?

Circle back 2017 draft ... Chubb, Denzell Ward, Jaire Alexander, Derwin James, Josh Rosens etc all "sat out" of their teams bowl game. Don't think any NFL team is questioning their "desire" at the elite level. Bowl games can still matter (Jake Butt & Jaylon Smith tore ACL's in bowl games) for some and not for others.

As long as there’s millions of dollars worth of guaranteed money for top NFL prospects and a bloated bowl schedule, players skipping bowl games isn’t fading.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842869)

Yes we should. I don’t care who you are if you show a lack of dedication to the ones who helped you achieve your dreams then I would take you off the board completely.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 842871)

The NFL is a business and most organizations & team scouts simply don't think (see Fournette & McCaffery) like that when ultimately drafting a player.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842869)

Yes we should. I don’t care who you are if you show a lack of dedication to the ones who helped you achieve your dreams then I would take you off the board completely. Let’s not forget greedy was a 3* coming out of HS and it was LSU who took a chance on him. Maybe it’s the old man in me but I want to see heart not the love for money

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 842893)

If he had shut it down mid-season I'd be more inclined to agree, but he didn't do that. He decided not to play in a meaningless game so as to protect his career and his earning potential. Much like many big time players play very little if at all in the pre season, and certainly not enough to matter. Those games don't matter much either. It's not 100% apples to apples, but that's my point.

If somebody told me, hey, get out there and support your teammates in this meaningless game OR have a cool million I'm going to be pulling for my guys from the first row.

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 842910)

Devin white played and will get drafted before greedy.

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 842911)

That's Devin White's decision. I don't hold it against him.