Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades

AsylumGuido · 05-01-2019, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

New England says hello?

New England also has a very low hit percentage on their picks. They are among the most active in free agency, however. Mainly they have Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and play in the AFC East (which has meant the most to their annual success) which keeps them relevant.

BakoSaint · 05-01-2019, 01:17 AM

I dont like trading up, especially with future picks. The Patriots do the opposite and accumulate picks, but why emulate a team that has been to 9 straight conference championships? Basically when you trade away future picks that are worth half the value of a present year pick at the same round, its like taking out a payday loan and paying 100% interesting in a year. Its a sucker bet that throws away long term value for the franchise because coaches and gms dont feel secure they will still have the job long enough to make the future picks. If it was all about winning now thats one thing, but then why spend the picks on raw projects and dubious qb of the future? Bridgewater is a nice kid but his stats were never amazing, his injury was catastrophic, and qbs with as much or more potential like rose , foles, etc come available all the time, especially for a coach like payton who qbs would like to work with.

K Major · 05-01-2019, 12:24 PM

New England are Outliers.

No other team in the league can do what they do every year.

Barry from MS · 05-01-2019, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

New England are Outliers.

No other team in the league can do what they do every year.

Absolutely right. No team can do what they do every year. And that's the way the NFL wants it. Patriots = $$$. Don't think so? See how the ratings do for primetime Pats games vs pitting 2 small market teams together on prime time.

Equally important the Pats dominate since both NYC teams have sucked for so long. Having a team like us dominate for so long is bad business here in the poor ol dirty south.

AsylumGuido · 05-01-2019, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Absolutely right. No team can do what they do every year. And that's the way the NFL wants it. Patriots = $$$. Don't think so? See how the ratings do for primetime Pats games vs pitting 2 small market teams together on prime time.

Equally important the Pats dominate since both NYC teams have sucked for so long. Having a team like us dominate for so long is bad business here in the poor ol dirty south.

I saw that the ratings for the LIE Super Bowl with the Pats was way down in ratings.

Barry from MS · 05-01-2019, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I saw that the ratings for the LIE Super Bowl with the Pats was way down in ratings.

Ratings for SB & the NFL in general have been a downward trend since bout XLVI. Part of that is online streaming and the NFL's failure to adapt but I've gone sideways. Shouldn't have just fired with 'ratings' as my stand alone argument but I was lazy & wanted brevity in the post. Figured most would get the general idea. Should have included popularity, merchandising, licensing, ticket/vendor sales, etc...unless you want me to keep listing?

Point is, as a business (which the NFL is certainly), it is more profitable for big market teams to be successful than us, Jax, Nashville, etc. If you're inclined to turning big piles of $ to bigger piles of $$$, more times than not you're skipping NO & TB for NYC & LA.

Oh yeah, and I sidetracked bout the 2nd & 7th Rd picks we lose for next year. My bad. We'll be fine.

Cruize · 05-01-2019, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

New England are Outliers.

No other team in the league can do what they do every year.

BB and his staff gets the absolute most out of their roster every year. And having an almost guaranteed six wins in the division doesn't hurt.

AsylumGuido · 05-01-2019, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

BB and his staff gets the absolute most out of their roster every year. And having an almost guaranteed six wins in the division doesn't hurt.

Bingo!!

Rugby Saint II · 05-03-2019, 12:37 PM

Well....we're screwed I guess.

We better win it all this year.....

jeanpierre · 05-03-2019, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Well....we're screwed I guess. We better win it all this year.....

05-01-2019, 12:12 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades Originally Posted by SmashMouth New England says hello? New England also has a very low hit percentage on their picks. They are among the most active in free agency, however. Mainly they have Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and play in the AFC East (which has meant the most to their annual success) which keeps them relevant.

05-01-2019, 01:17 AM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,390	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades I dont like trading up, especially with future picks. The Patriots do the opposite and accumulate picks, but why emulate a team that has been to 9 straight conference championships? Basically when you trade away future picks that are worth half the value of a present year pick at the same round, its like taking out a payday loan and paying 100% interesting in a year. Its a sucker bet that throws away long term value for the franchise because coaches and gms dont feel secure they will still have the job long enough to make the future picks. If it was all about winning now thats one thing, but then why spend the picks on raw projects and dubious qb of the future? Bridgewater is a nice kid but his stats were never amazing, his injury was catastrophic, and qbs with as much or more potential like rose , foles, etc come available all the time, especially for a coach like payton who qbs would like to work with.
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05-01-2019, 12:24 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades New England are Outliers. No other team in the league can do what they do every year.

05-01-2019, 02:12 PM	#4
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades Originally Posted by K Major New England are Outliers. No other team in the league can do what they do every year. Absolutely right. No team can do what they do every year. And that's the way the NFL wants it. Patriots = $$$. Don't think so? See how the ratings do for primetime Pats games vs pitting 2 small market teams together on prime time. Equally important the Pats dominate since both NYC teams have sucked for so long. Having a team like us dominate for so long is bad business here in the poor ol dirty south.

05-01-2019, 04:26 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades Originally Posted by Barry from MS Absolutely right. No team can do what they do every year. And that's the way the NFL wants it. Patriots = $$$. Don't think so? See how the ratings do for primetime Pats games vs pitting 2 small market teams together on prime time. Equally important the Pats dominate since both NYC teams have sucked for so long. Having a team like us dominate for so long is bad business here in the poor ol dirty south. I saw that the ratings for the LIE Super Bowl with the Pats was way down in ratings.

05-01-2019, 05:38 PM	#6
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I saw that the ratings for the LIE Super Bowl with the Pats was way down in ratings. Ratings for SB & the NFL in general have been a downward trend since bout XLVI. Part of that is online streaming and the NFL's failure to adapt but I've gone sideways. Shouldn't have just fired with 'ratings' as my stand alone argument but I was lazy & wanted brevity in the post. Figured most would get the general idea. Should have included popularity, merchandising, licensing, ticket/vendor sales, etc...unless you want me to keep listing? Point is, as a business (which the NFL is certainly), it is more profitable for big market teams to be successful than us, Jax, Nashville, etc. If you're inclined to turning big piles of $ to bigger piles of $$$, more times than not you're skipping NO & TB for NYC & LA. Oh yeah, and I sidetracked bout the 2nd & 7th Rd picks we lose for next year. My bad. We'll be fine. K Major likes this.
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05-01-2019, 04:46 PM	#7
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades Originally Posted by K Major New England are Outliers. No other team in the league can do what they do every year. BB and his staff gets the absolute most out of their roster every year. And having an almost guaranteed six wins in the division doesn't hurt. AsylumGuido likes this.
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05-01-2019, 05:04 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades Originally Posted by Cruize BB and his staff gets the absolute most out of their roster every year. And having an almost guaranteed six wins in the division doesn't hurt. Bingo!!

05-03-2019, 12:37 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades Well....we're screwed I guess. We better win it all this year.....

05-03-2019, 07:17 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints already without 2 picks for 2020 NFL Draft because of trades Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Well....we're screwed I guess. We better win it all this year.....