PFT: Myles Garrett: Gregg Williams only let me use two moves

CHA_CHING · 02-16-2020, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Even though GW messed the ending of that game up, I find it hilarious that people refuse to blame Brees and the Offense when they turned the ball over 5 times in that game.

That game could have been over in the first half with the way Brees played, but the D held firm, unfortunately the Vernon Davis catch and run crippled us, people will forever think it was only the D that doomed us that day.

I partly agree here, except on your second part. That game was never going to be an easy one for us. The only thing that really kept us in that game all day was the Niners being unable to convert on 3rd downs. It was their Achilles' heel that entire season. They went 13-3 thanks to their defense while the offense barely did enough to win them games. They had a kicker that year break Jerry Rice's point record.

Like I said in previous post; the 2011 team was a paper tiger. They really aren't that different from the 2013 Broncos. Both had record setting offenses that padded stats and ran up scores. Only difference was Denver had a better defense than us and they managed to get through a weak AFC where they slammed into a brick wall in the SB facing a legit defense.

We got our brick wall earlier in the playoffs, didn't even reach the SB. I know many Saints fans truly think the 2011 team was some "greatest team to never win a SB" but I have never bought into that. We had a bottom 4 defense in terms of DVOA. That defense was bad and they had struggled with average at best QBs.

The 2011 team struggled on the road even with crappy teams. Go back to the Falcons game where we blew a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter. Mike Smith gave that game to us by going for it on 4th down in OT, giving us the ball in field goal range. We struggled with a crappy Titans team with Jake Locker at QB. Got our asses handed to us by the Rams, struggled with Tampa Bay and Carolina on the road too. It shouldn't have surprised anyone that we made Alex Smith look like the second coming of Steve Young in that game. I knew we were going to lose when they got that TD on the Tecmo Super Bowl bootleg run play.

The Niners were never going to be a pushover in 2011. It was insane that we were even favored on the road against them when they had the #1 ranked defense given how badly we struggled with the Lions the week prior. Fans forget, that Payton had to start going for it on 4th down in that game, cause we couldn't stop Stafford. Let them put 28 points on the board and get into a shoot out.

02-16-2020, 04:02 PM	#10
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: PFT: Myles Garrett: Gregg Williams only let me use two moves Originally Posted by dizzle88 Even though GW messed the ending of that game up, I find it hilarious that people refuse to blame Brees and the Offense when they turned the ball over 5 times in that game. That game could have been over in the first half with the way Brees played, but the D held firm, unfortunately the Vernon Davis catch and run crippled us, people will forever think it was only the D that doomed us that day. I partly agree here, except on your second part. That game was never going to be an easy one for us. The only thing that really kept us in that game all day was the Niners being unable to convert on 3rd downs. It was their Achilles' heel that entire season. They went 13-3 thanks to their defense while the offense barely did enough to win them games. They had a kicker that year break Jerry Rice's point record. Like I said in previous post; the 2011 team was a paper tiger. They really aren't that different from the 2013 Broncos. Both had record setting offenses that padded stats and ran up scores. Only difference was Denver had a better defense than us and they managed to get through a weak AFC where they slammed into a brick wall in the SB facing a legit defense. We got our brick wall earlier in the playoffs, didn't even reach the SB. I know many Saints fans truly think the 2011 team was some "greatest team to never win a SB" but I have never bought into that. We had a bottom 4 defense in terms of DVOA. That defense was bad and they had struggled with average at best QBs. The 2011 team struggled on the road even with crappy teams. Go back to the Falcons game where we blew a 10 point lead in the 4th quarter. Mike Smith gave that game to us by going for it on 4th down in OT, giving us the ball in field goal range. We struggled with a crappy Titans team with Jake Locker at QB. Got our asses handed to us by the Rams, struggled with Tampa Bay and Carolina on the road too. It shouldn't have surprised anyone that we made Alex Smith look like the second coming of Steve Young in that game. I knew we were going to lose when they got that TD on the Tecmo Super Bowl bootleg run play. The Niners were never going to be a pushover in 2011. It was insane that we were even favored on the road against them when they had the #1 ranked defense given how badly we struggled with the Lions the week prior. Fans forget, that Payton had to start going for it on 4th down in that game, cause we couldn't stop Stafford. Let them put 28 points on the board and get into a shoot out.

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