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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Wow...gotta love these matchups... Mike Thomas vs their Best CB Ted Ginn vs their Free Safety Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety Tre'Quan Smith vs their other Cornerback Big Keith Kirkwood vs their Nickel And LBers left to cover Alvin ...

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Old 06-02-2019, 01:34 AM   #11
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Wow...gotta love these matchups...

Mike Thomas vs their Best CB

Ted Ginn vs their Free Safety

Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety

Tre'Quan Smith vs their other Cornerback

Big Keith Kirkwood vs their Nickel

And LBers left to cover Alvin Kamara?

Drew may see more Dime this season than all the other seasons combined...
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Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Wow...gotta love these matchups...

Mike Thomas vs their Best CB

Ted Ginn vs their Free Safety

Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety

Tre'Quan Smith vs their other Cornerback

Big Keith Kirkwood vs their Nickel

And LBers left to cover Alvin Kamara?

Drew may see more Dime this season than all the other seasons combined...
Nobody would cover Kamara because he would have to be on the bench with those previous five players on the field. You can only have five offensive players other than the five linemen and the QB.

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Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes

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Nobody would cover Kamara because he would have to be on the bench with those previous five players on the field. You can only have five offensive players other than the five linemen and the QB.

That's the point - Saints have plenty of weapons...
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Lots of pressure on one man that didn't have much to say about what was given up for him or how he will be utilized...

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Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes

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Lots of pressure on one man that didn't have much to say about what was given up for him or how he will be utilized...
Yeah, a lot is riding, but with the other weapons, he at least doesn't have to carry the offense. The investment in Davenport, failing to start developing a center sooner, the decisions became more consequential than planned...

So it was gonna be Free Agency all along, even before overspending draft capital; it wasn't like there was a great TE market, though I liked what we had even before we signed him, he's insurance with his NFL experience...
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Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety ...

Take your eye off Cook for a split second ... substantial gain and/or TD.
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Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes

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Jared Cook vs their Strong Safety ...

Take your eye off Cook for a split second ... substantial gain and/or TD.
And that's the thing; it's not like the ATL where you take away Julio or Planet Houston, take away Hopkins - Brees makes every receiver a threat...
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Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes

Everything really depends on Brees at 40 years old. With how bad his production numbers tanked at the end of last year, it's a legit concern.

I know QBs are playing longer now, but there comes a time when the decline hits. Peyton Manning looked unstoppable until late in the 2014 season when his decline began. Remember Brett Favre in 2009? Legit MVP contender and then fell off a cliff the next year. Manning and Favre both posted their career worst seasons in their final year. One of them was just lucky to be playing on a team with a historic defense.

Even Brady wasn't really all that great last year. The Pats change their offense often depending on what their skilled strengths are. With an aged Brady and lack of deep threat receivers, they went back to running the ball heavily and Sony Michel became their offensive MVP. The Pats looked like their 2001-2004 selves last year with Brady doing mostly game managing.

It's been the high football IQ as to why Brees, Brady and even Manning were all able to play so long and put up amazing seasons when they should've been declining.

I think Payton has been anticipated this in advance and has been working to adjust our offense since 2017. There has been progress made to adjust into a new style of offense that don't rely on Brees to throw it 40 times a game.
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Re: Can Jared Cook return Saints' tight end production to former glory? It's early, but team has high hopes

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And that's the thing; it's not like the ATL where you take away Julio or Planet Houston, take away Hopkins - Brees makes every receiver a threat...



That wasn't true last year when they couldn't get on the same page and Drew wasn't connecting with the receivers. He can make good players look great but even he can't polish a turd and make it shine. Not that these guys are turds but they played like crap last year.

Hopefully, this year everyone is on the same page.
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