Reggie Bush, Marques Colston to enter Saints’ Hall of Fame

06-06-2019, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Yeah, he was on the SB team and as you stated, holds some team records, did a lot of good for the community so I get it. I guess I'm just spoiled rotten with Kamara now. He raised the bar too damn high.

What about Gleason? He blocked a punt and was a decent special team guy but does he belong in the HOF? I say he does, He’s got my vote. He did and continues to do more for us and our community than any other player in Saints history.
It’s not all about what’s done on the field.

K Major · 06-07-2019, 10:03 AM

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jeanpierre · 06-07-2019, 11:02 AM

Reggie Bush tells the story of Bring The Wood...

CHA_CHING · 06-07-2019, 11:23 AM

I believe the bar is set so low for our HOF due to how long it took for the franchise to have some winning glory.

Reggie isn't even the worst for me. What the hell is Bobby Hebert doing in the Saints HOF? The Cajun Cannon was the biggest problem with those old Mora teams. It's easy to blame OC Carl Smith until looking at the offensive turn around in 1994-1995 with Jim Everett at QB. Hebert saved his absolute worst games for the playoffs, look them up. If advanced stats existed back then, he would've been compared to Blake Bortles and yet he's in the Saints HOF and we remember him fondly for some reason.

CHA_CHING · 06-07-2019, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

What about Gleason? He blocked a punt and was a decent special team guy but does he belong in the HOF? I say he does, He’s got my vote. He did and continues to do more for us and our community than any other player in Saints history.
It’s not all about what’s done on the field.

I remember Gleason being part of a blocked punt against the Bucs in 2002. Can't remember if it was the home game, or the season opener on the road. We blocked in both of those games.

The Haslett teams may have been stuck in mediocrity of 8-8 and 9-7 seasons, but we had some awesome special teams... Beer Man was a joy to watch.

The Dude · 06-07-2019, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

I remember Gleason being part of a blocked punt against the Bucs in 2002. Can't remember if it was the home game, or the season opener on the road. We blocked in both of those games.

The Haslett teams may have been stuck in mediocrity of 8-8 and 9-7 seasons, but we had some awesome special teams... Beer Man was a joy to watch.

He had 3 but the Atlanta blocked kick may go down as the most important play in franchise history given the impact it had on the city. Beer Man was fun as hell to watch.
And who knows what would have happened if Haslett didn’t have such a hard on for Brooks.

jeanpierre · 06-07-2019, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

I believe the bar is set so low for our HOF due to how long it took for the franchise to have some winning glory.

Reggie isn't even the worst for me. What the hell is Bobby Hebert doing in the Saints HOF? The Cajun Cannon was the biggest problem with those old Mora teams. It's easy to blame OC Carl Smith until looking at the offensive turn around in 1994-1995 with Jim Everett at QB. Hebert saved his absolute worst games for the playoffs, look them up. If advanced stats existed back then, he would've been compared to Blake Bortles and yet he's in the Saints HOF and we remember him fondly for some reason.

Grew up on Bayous Lafourche and Terrebonne and my family wasn't big Hebert fans of those wounded ducks; plus, he rivaled Diliberto in butchering the English language, but Hebert wasn't the problem - Mora was...

Mora didn't trust his players, his staff, often pulled most pass plays out of the play scripte, making the offense predictable; Hebert clarified this when he had Carl Smith on his show and callers were looking to vent...

Following weeks after that show other players on those teams corroborated Hebert's take on that time; Carl Smith was still the loyal soldier even though Mora has let him take the brunt of criticism for the offense...

Ron Swoboda famously criticized Mora for his overt conservatism; Mora became so agitated, he called in on another show and questioned Buford Jordan's manhood, Live - Jim Mora was his own worst enemy...

K Major · 06-07-2019, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Grew up on Bayous Lafourche and Terrebonne and my family wasn't big Hebert fans of those wounded ducks; plus, he rivaled Diliberto in butchering the English language, but Hebert wasn't the problem - Mora was...

JP -

Kind of off topic but is it safe to say Tommy Hodson was the best QB to come out of LaFourche Parish?

At LSU, he could flat out "spin it".

jnormand · 06-07-2019, 12:30 PM

I have no prob with Hebert being in the Saints HOF. Good hell, if Brooks is, Hebert should be.

As far as Reggie is concerned, I don't have a problem with that either. Bush brought a confidence and swagger to the field before and during games that I hadn't seen in a while on the offense.

He was a threat as a reciever almost more than a RB. And he was a threat on punt returns early in his career.

Those are good memories.

jeanpierre · 06-07-2019, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

JP -

Kind of off topic but is it safe to say Tommy Hodson was the best QB to come out of LaFourche Parish?

At LSU, he could flat out "spin it".

No, Hebert was better; in his very early days, he could run and truck like a TE as well, sort of like Cam...

If you recall the thread with the physics show looking at Brees passes, you don't want a perfect spiral for it to travel farther; Hebert just could heave it (i.e. Anthony Carter), just not overly accurate...

Bobby played for (believe Sam Goodwin then) at Northwestern State LA (Natchitoches), then USFL, didn't get any real QB coaching till Carl Smith, but he was as good as Brad Johnson who won a Superbowl...

Tommy Hodson was really good; actually played against him our JV year; very accurate, stronger than most QBs, but nothing special for an NFL arm; but Tommy had a good head on his shoulders...

That Fourcade v Hebert was a terrific battle in the slop (man-made) down at South Lafourche; that game got more buzz than any of the Big Catholic League showdowns back in the day...

But They're the most accomplished QBs from this area...

06-06-2019, 11:24 PM	#31
Threaded by The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Beastmode Yeah, he was on the SB team and as you stated, holds some team records, did a lot of good for the community so I get it. I guess I'm just spoiled rotten with Kamara now. He raised the bar too damn high. What about Gleason? He blocked a punt and was a decent special team guy but does he belong in the HOF? I say he does, He’s got my vote. He did and continues to do more for us and our community than any other player in Saints history. It’s not all about what’s done on the field. Crusader likes this.
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06-07-2019, 10:03 AM	#32
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06-07-2019, 11:23 AM	#34
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Reggie Bush, Marques Colston to enter Saints’ Hall of Fame I believe the bar is set so low for our HOF due to how long it took for the franchise to have some winning glory. Reggie isn't even the worst for me. What the hell is Bobby Hebert doing in the Saints HOF? The Cajun Cannon was the biggest problem with those old Mora teams. It's easy to blame OC Carl Smith until looking at the offensive turn around in 1994-1995 with Jim Everett at QB. Hebert saved his absolute worst games for the playoffs, look them up. If advanced stats existed back then, he would've been compared to Blake Bortles and yet he's in the Saints HOF and we remember him fondly for some reason.

06-07-2019, 11:24 AM	#35
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Reggie Bush, Marques Colston to enter Saints’ Hall of Fame Originally Posted by The Dude What about Gleason? He blocked a punt and was a decent special team guy but does he belong in the HOF? I say he does, He’s got my vote. He did and continues to do more for us and our community than any other player in Saints history. It’s not all about what’s done on the field. I remember Gleason being part of a blocked punt against the Bucs in 2002. Can't remember if it was the home game, or the season opener on the road. We blocked in both of those games. The Haslett teams may have been stuck in mediocrity of 8-8 and 9-7 seasons, but we had some awesome special teams... Beer Man was a joy to watch. jnormand likes this.

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06-07-2019, 11:46 AM	#36
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Reggie Bush, Marques Colston to enter Saints’ Hall of Fame Originally Posted by CHA_CHING I remember Gleason being part of a blocked punt against the Bucs in 2002. Can't remember if it was the home game, or the season opener on the road. We blocked in both of those games. The Haslett teams may have been stuck in mediocrity of 8-8 and 9-7 seasons, but we had some awesome special teams... Beer Man was a joy to watch. He had 3 but the Atlanta blocked kick may go down as the most important play in franchise history given the impact it had on the city. Beer Man was fun as hell to watch. And who knows what would have happened if Haslett didn’t have such a hard on for Brooks. CHA_CHING likes this.
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06-07-2019, 11:58 AM	#37
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Reggie Bush, Marques Colston to enter Saints’ Hall of Fame Originally Posted by CHA_CHING I believe the bar is set so low for our HOF due to how long it took for the franchise to have some winning glory. Reggie isn't even the worst for me. What the hell is Bobby Hebert doing in the Saints HOF? The Cajun Cannon was the biggest problem with those old Mora teams. It's easy to blame OC Carl Smith until looking at the offensive turn around in 1994-1995 with Jim Everett at QB. Hebert saved his absolute worst games for the playoffs, look them up. If advanced stats existed back then, he would've been compared to Blake Bortles and yet he's in the Saints HOF and we remember him fondly for some reason. Grew up on Bayous Lafourche and Terrebonne and my family wasn't big Hebert fans of those wounded ducks; plus, he rivaled Diliberto in butchering the English language, but Hebert wasn't the problem - Mora was... Mora didn't trust his players, his staff, often pulled most pass plays out of the play scripte, making the offense predictable; Hebert clarified this when he had Carl Smith on his show and callers were looking to vent... Following weeks after that show other players on those teams corroborated Hebert's take on that time; Carl Smith was still the loyal soldier even though Mora has let him take the brunt of criticism for the offense... Ron Swoboda famously criticized Mora for his overt conservatism; Mora became so agitated, he called in on another show and questioned Buford Jordan's manhood, Live - Jim Mora was his own worst enemy... jnormand and CHA_CHING like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Reggie Bush, Marques Colston to enter Saints’ Hall of Fame Originally Posted by jeanpierre Grew up on Bayous Lafourche and Terrebonne and my family wasn't big Hebert fans of those wounded ducks; plus, he rivaled Diliberto in butchering the English language, but Hebert wasn't the problem - Mora was... JP - Kind of off topic but is it safe to say Tommy Hodson was the best QB to come out of LaFourche Parish? At LSU, he could flat out "spin it".

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Reggie Bush, Marques Colston to enter Saints’ Hall of Fame I have no prob with Hebert being in the Saints HOF. Good hell, if Brooks is, Hebert should be. As far as Reggie is concerned, I don't have a problem with that either. Bush brought a confidence and swagger to the field before and during games that I hadn't seen in a while on the offense. He was a threat as a reciever almost more than a RB. And he was a threat on punt returns early in his career. Those are good memories. jeanpierre, K Major and SaintGnome like this.

06-07-2019, 12:44 PM	#40
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Reggie Bush, Marques Colston to enter Saints’ Hall of Fame Originally Posted by K Major JP - Kind of off topic but is it safe to say Tommy Hodson was the best QB to come out of LaFourche Parish? At LSU, he could flat out "spin it". No, Hebert was better; in his very early days, he could run and truck like a TE as well, sort of like Cam... If you recall the thread with the physics show looking at Brees passes, you don't want a perfect spiral for it to travel farther; Hebert just could heave it (i.e. Anthony Carter), just not overly accurate... Bobby played for (believe Sam Goodwin then) at Northwestern State LA (Natchitoches), then USFL, didn't get any real QB coaching till Carl Smith, but he was as good as Brad Johnson who won a Superbowl... Tommy Hodson was really good; actually played against him our JV year; very accurate, stronger than most QBs, but nothing special for an NFL arm; but Tommy had a good head on his shoulders... That Fourcade v Hebert was a terrific battle in the slop (man-made) down at South Lafourche; that game got more buzz than any of the Big Catholic League showdowns back in the day... But They're the most accomplished QBs from this area... SmashMouth, K Major and CHA_CHING like this.
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