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All true but the 2 players that were being discussed will be on the team without question and they played well.

Latavius is a great addition I don't get all the nay sayers. Different style from Ingram but to me a better skill set fit for the offense ... opinion.

Bridgewater looked comfortable and made some good throws. Held the ball too long on several occasions and did not seem inclined to leave the pocket. Probably mission statement at this point. He's not Brees but again who is ... caution opinion ... I think there is only 1 maybe 2 QB's that have level understanding and command of their offense and the game to execute at Brees level. We have been very lucky as fans to have Brees and Peyton together.

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I'm no astrophysicist but I know that space is pretty big.

We're not the scouting dept or coaching staff, but we know bad football play when we see it. Pat Swilling said the pass rush was bad...he's a subject matter expert. But we didn't need his word for it to come to that conclusion.

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If Harris keeps that up for 4 preseason games the ole man sherrells asre is pukkering.

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Teddy Bridgewater has solid outing against his former team
Charean Williams,ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports 14 hours ago


Teddy Bridgewater had a chance to leave for Miami in the offseason. He chose to return for another season behind Drew Brees in New Orleans.

With Brees sitting out the preseason opener Friday night, Bridgewater got a chance to start against the team that drafted him 32nd overall in 2014.

Bridgewater, 26, played the entire first half against the Vikings. The Saints ran 33 plays and gained 168 yards in the first half, with Bridgewater turning a 14-12 halftime deficit over to third-string quarterback Taysom Hill. The Vikings won the game, 34-25.

Bridgewater went 14-for-19 for 134 yards, a touchdown and a 110.3 passer rating.

His touchdown pass came in the two-minute drill, an 18-yarder to Dan Arnold with 44 seconds left in the half. His two-point pass attempt, though, was incomplete.

Bridgewater spent four seasons in Minnesota before signing with the Jets as a free agent. The Jets traded him to the Saints before the start of last season.

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- Really liked what I saw from Ozigbo (avg 6.7 ypc). In limited action, he looked good. And stop it with the Latavius Murray bashing ... not only is he a bull dozer, he has explosion with the one cut more. He made 5, 6 yards out of virtually nothing on a couple of runs.

- Teddy B is sharp and has really matured. Accurate thrower of the football. Outside of holding on to the ball a second too long, he played a good game. MN announcers mentioned it a lot of times how he's matured as a QB. Well ahead of Taysom at this point.

- Erik McKoy - quietly solid all night long. Solid for a rookie center.

Cut that tackle Newhouse. He's a walking turn style and will get a QB seriously injured.

D line - uuuggh. Serious concerns here. Zero outside pass rush. Nothing from Davenport, Mario Edwards or T Rex last night. Stallworth was just a hair late but he has some good moments. Technique has to get better by all. Easy to see why we were interested in Ziggy Ansah and Quinn. I still don't see the replacement for Alex Okafor on the roster yet.

- Dan Arnold - meh. Too up and down, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for my taste. I don't see him as nothing more than a #3 TE.

CGJ and Hampton were relatively quiet ... Chauncey did make a nice tackle on special teams and also tackled the guy to prevent a 2 pt conversion.

- Grayson and the Assumption kid impressed me on special teams. Cyril is a weapon with that speed.

- PRob was burned like a brisket by 2nd teamer who will be working at LA Fitness in Sept. Not sure if it was rust or what but man ...

All in all, only pre season game 1. Hopefully we get to see more of the rookies (including E Butler) in the next game.

Keep grinding.

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Look at the story of 2 teams last nite we are not set on subs. It’s a lot to clean up ala Payton. Their D backs played man we played soft coverage it tells nothing . But it is what we saw. Minn is ahead of the game. Our receivers were covered like polyester curtains . Theirs roamed free like buffalo on the prairies.

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Damn... If the team played as defensive as some fans, it would have been a shut out. I complimented you guys lol.

Preseason is an evaluation period not a competitive period, it is solely to decide what 37 players will not have a roster spot on September 1st. No one is playing full speed except for players trying to not be part of the 37. You can get a good bit of evaluation on those players but nothing team oriented or from the starters. Not to mention our defense takes 3 regular season games to get on step every year.

Only a fool would put what they plan to do in the regular season on display in the preseason...

'I am scared to say what I saw'... Am I going to need witness protection or something?:bng:

If you haven't put money down, then you are blowing smoke up your own ass about what you think you know. Seriously, I have seen predictions on the outcome of the first quarter of the season.

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Grayson to me was never really a longshot. He's been on two teams already and he was really close. That was a massive catch then he had a sweet end around that got flagged by a dufus OL hold on the opposite side. WTF? There was a lot of that going on. Penalties that served no purpose and killed drives. Looking to see that crap cleaned up asap.

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Ozigbo is gonna be a nice addition. Murray will be, too. Murray impressed me.

Bridgewater has got what it takes to be the heir apparent.

McCoy was effective, plus no bad mistakes.

Newhouse isn't the answer to back up Armstead. At all.

DLine without Cam is below average. Run D is average, but pass rush is really bad.

Arnold < Derby...concentration issues.

Wanna see more Butler, Ozigbo, Hampton, CGJ, Lil'Jordan, Elliss, Davenport & less of Kamara, MT.

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There aren’t enough good OT’s for every team to have competent starters... let alone good backups. It’s Newhouse or Ola.

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Yay?

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Ok me big shot abolish me for black and gold. U the same guy that said the same thing when we went 7-9 aha the chicken tree yep

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In evaluating the black and gold last nite half the teamed sucked. Is that fair?

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Scratch Newhouse. We can find better after the final roster cuts.

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Andrus PEAT ...

Didn't see him last night.

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MT dropped a TD. Even the announcers stated wow he should have had that one so I know I was not the only one. 9/10 he hauls that in so it wasn't just backups whiffing but meh...it is still PS I agree. Not a big deal. We went undefeated in PS one year and then had one W I believe the whole season.

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I am listening to u gumbo but some of the players that will be here as solid#2s did diddly squat. Bad tackling getting dominated by #2s & 3s but we are slow starters that’s a fact I’ll give y’all that. The guy who says preseason is not a competitive game is on crack no I apologize for that statement . He has never played in a football game. U go in any football game half asre u will be cut/ injured.

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I’m tellin u that guy could be a weapon . If we could develop him into a legit receiver who could cover him. Tyreek hill 1.5 anyway

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I didn't see **** because the solid core of the team didn't play a single snap together. I saw plenty of camp bodies going through the motions. Big whoopie! It means nothing to me.

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That half of the team won't make the final 53. Right?

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So are you suddenly worried about Michael Thomas? Of course not. A meaningless preseason game testing the bottom 40 players that aren't making the squad. They will of course affect the entire squad ... real starters or not.

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FANS BE LIKE!!

"Eliminate Preseason games!!!"

"Oh No! We lost a Preseason game"

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That's exactly what it is "75% of the players won't be there blah blah blah" Davenport Robinson Apple Mario Edwards and those fellas will be there. So if they look bad they look bad, or we can say they didn't look bad but they ain't look good and that's a issue for players who are expected to contribute

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MT dropping that pass had nothing to do with anyone else but MT, it wasn't the throw he just dropped a TD that he should have caught. To my understanding I don't think anyone is saying we aren't capable of being a good team or whatever you're making the analysis of the preseason game out to be, but it's clear as that the performance put out on the field yesterday is less than encouraging from some starters and potential backups.

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I can't stand you holier than thou BS posters.... eat crow.

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Not too big of a deal dropping a Preseason game. It was good to see the rookies and the younger guys' development (or lack thereof).

I'm a win-1st kinda guy, so even a semi-meaningless loss irks me. I doubt Payton was telling Arnold & PRob after their boners "Its ok, Pookie. It doesn't count anyhow."

Sky ain't falling. It woulda been great to win, but we can kinda see about where we are.

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Pre-season isn't about wins and losses, but the game matters in as much as the players have to perform, outside any kind of scheming for the opposition.

I agree our oline looked pretty good. I thought Teddy looked pretty good. Alvin is Alvin. MT dropped a tough ball in traffic it happens.

But anybody who doesn't want to acknowledge the crap we saw on defense is drinking some spiked kool aid. Of course it can be fixed. It was the first preseason game. It doesn't matter? That's a bill of goods Saintfan ain't buyin'.

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He's the highest paid WR in the game right now. No way am I concerned about it, hell he shouldn't have even been out there in the first place. Am I questioning Payton. Yes. Nobody is putting their superstars on the field in the first PS game but us from what I have seen. It's stupid but he is the coach and I am not. If MT or Kamara would have got hurt though everyone on this forum would have blown a fuse.

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"Blown a fuse" is putting it mildly.

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Thank u

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The Vikings had Kirk Cousins Diggs and Theiland on the field

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Then you didn't see our game. Cousins started at QB and both of their starting WR's played.

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I still don’t understand why some of you go back and forth with AG on this. Yes, it’s valid for you to criticize anyone involved in the saints organization at any time, we are fans, it’s what we do. The troubling part is some of you have been here long enough to know what AG does...
From the start of preseason to about week 4 AG will mostly post about it being too early to judge and slam others that care to discuss opportunities. This isn’t new, it shouldn’t bother you, it shouldn’t deter you from being a critic.
If you stop posting this site dies... so please, keep being a fan, even in the preseason.

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I agree , but when someone wants to insult your intelligence ( which I don’t have much of ) I can take a joke or a pun . But blowing smoke up my own asre is hard to do. Lol

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I hope Kamara sits the rest of the pre season .. maybe a series in game 4 along with Brees but that's it.

With all of these RB's the Saints are bringing in and signing ... let's see who is capable of giving Kamara a blow if/when needed.

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Pointing out that so-and-so looked bad in this preseason game is far different than projecting that into "we're looking at a 2-2ish start", "our defense is going to be in trouble this season", and "looking like an 8-8 season" type statements is ridiculous. That's what irks me. The same like type comments were being made each of the last two preseasons with resulted in 13-3 regular seasons with the very real chance of winning it all again.

The first preseason game doesn't display what IS, it shows what needs to be worked on by the very lowest fringe players hoping to make the roster. A dropped catch by Michael Thomas in the end zone is meaningless. The lack of a sack by Davenport is trivial. The blown coverage by a defensive backfield with key members on the sideline is not a death sentence for the season.

I know that some of the posters here have a tendency to be overly critical of the team at times (for whatever reason), but I'll never understand it. I have zero control over anything to do with the competence of the team so I have always simply looked for and hoped for the best.

Be assured, I will always disagree and try to fight the "woe is us" attitude. Sorry, but it's how I roll.

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By suppressing critical thought? Some are more tentative than others to express their honest opinion b/c they know it'll be met with over-the-top chastising...calling out their fandom, belittling their lack of professional football experience, etc. This passive aggressive control tactic is tiring.

But I will fight for the right for folks to share their opinions whether I agree or not without judging those folks. That's how I roll.