Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more

08-19-2019, 07:38 AM

Ozigbo could be out of here for that fumble. He redeemed himself but Payton regards fumblers with extreme prejudice. If that happens again during PS he is certainly gone I know that much.

vpheughan · 08-19-2019, 07:56 AM

Aaron Rogers needs to tell Taysom Hill to "Get Down" when that happens Hill will become "Super Star" Oh wait, Hill was on the same team as Rogers and he must have told him "Don't slide you can take it"

Cutting and losing Hill pounded a few nails in McCarthy's "casket"

vpheughan · 08-19-2019, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Ozigbo could be out of here for that fumble. He redeemed himself but Payton regards fumblers with extreme prejudice. If that happens again during PS he is certainly gone I know that much.

That fumble was caused by a helmet to the ball. Chris Ivory had 4 fumbles in his first year and had a 3 year stint as a Saint. I also remember in the first NFC championship game a WR #12 having the ball ripped out of his hands after a catch in the red zone. He retired as a Saint.

Beastmode · 08-19-2019, 08:16 AM

I also recall Ingram getting benched for Hightower for fumbling. He put our best RB on the pine. But yes, if you go back to they way back time machine he was more forgiving. He's not anymore. If Ozigbo fumbles again, helmet or no helmet I stand by he's outta here.

K Major · 08-19-2019, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

That fumble was caused by a helmet to the ball. Chris Ivory had 4 fumbles in his first year and had a 3 year stint as a Saint. I also remember in the first NFC championship game a WR #12 having the ball ripped out of his hands after a catch in the red zone. He retired as a Saint.

Different teams, different times.

I guarantee you if Ozigbo has "issues" with ball security going forward, he'll be a ghost in New Orleans. Ask Lasco and Marcus Murphy.

K Major · 08-19-2019, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I also recall Ingram getting benched for Hightower for fumbling. He put our best RB on the pine. But yes, if you go back to they way back time machine he was more forgiving. He's not anymore. If Ozigbo fumbles again, helmet or no helmet I stand by he's outta here.

+1. Precisely.

I agree with everything you just stated.

Crusader · 08-19-2019, 08:31 AM

I can see us keeping 4 RBs:

Kamara
Murray
Washington
Ozigbo

Zach Line will be back at FB.

Rodgers, Williams and any other flavour of the week will be gone.

CheramieIII · 08-19-2019, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Except for that fumble...

But I think we all could live with a fumble every now and then if he plays like he did last night!

jeanpierre · 08-19-2019, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

Justin Hardee has real upside and I wish we'd give him a real chance at CB instead of relegating him to special teams. The guy has impressed me since the first time I saw him on the field. You may think me crazy, but I think he could be the answer to our No 2 CB as I believe he has higher upside than Eli Apple.

Well, that's why they found him a job on special teams, they could see he was seriously quick, sudden...

Again, just like with Dan Arnold, many of these guys the Saints felt were mis-cast and are trying to fit them into a new position, just starting out at the NFL level...

It'll require a lot, a lot of work, but the rewards will be awesome, and needed with the obvious cap cramp we're coming to with our latest draft hauls...

jeanpierre · 08-19-2019, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I can see us keeping 4 RBs:

Kamara
Murray
Washington
Ozigbo

Zach Line will be back at FB.

Rodgers, Williams and any other flavour of the week will be gone.

I'm not sold on Washington - he blew kick coverage twice yesterday; the INT at the goal line was on Bridgewater, but it hit him in the hands, albeit behind him...

Rodgers has been with the team for only two (2) weeks and was put in immediately, including that 2-minute drive where we saw the best of Bridgewater...

After two PreSeason games, while Ozigbo is promising, Nebraska didn't do enough to develop him - I can see why the back end of the RB depth chart should be affixed with a turn-style...

08-19-2019, 07:38 AM	#11
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08-19-2019, 07:56 AM	#12
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,522	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more Aaron Rogers needs to tell Taysom Hill to "Get Down" when that happens Hill will become "Super Star" Oh wait, Hill was on the same team as Rogers and he must have told him "Don't slide you can take it" Cutting and losing Hill pounded a few nails in McCarthy's "casket" SmashMouth likes this.
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08-19-2019, 08:00 AM	#13
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,522	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more Originally Posted by Beastmode Ozigbo could be out of here for that fumble. He redeemed himself but Payton regards fumblers with extreme prejudice. If that happens again during PS he is certainly gone I know that much. That fumble was caused by a helmet to the ball. Chris Ivory had 4 fumbles in his first year and had a 3 year stint as a Saint. I also remember in the first NFC championship game a WR #12 having the ball ripped out of his hands after a catch in the red zone. He retired as a Saint. SmashMouth likes this.
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08-19-2019, 08:16 AM	#14
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more I also recall Ingram getting benched for Hightower for fumbling. He put our best RB on the pine. But yes, if you go back to they way back time machine he was more forgiving. He's not anymore. If Ozigbo fumbles again, helmet or no helmet I stand by he's outta here. K Major likes this.
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08-19-2019, 08:24 AM	#15
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more Originally Posted by vpheughan That fumble was caused by a helmet to the ball. Chris Ivory had 4 fumbles in his first year and had a 3 year stint as a Saint. I also remember in the first NFC championship game a WR #12 having the ball ripped out of his hands after a catch in the red zone. He retired as a Saint. Different teams, different times. I guarantee you if Ozigbo has "issues" with ball security going forward, he'll be a ghost in New Orleans. Ask Lasco and Marcus Murphy. SmashMouth and Beastmode like this.

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08-19-2019, 08:25 AM	#16
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more Originally Posted by Beastmode I also recall Ingram getting benched for Hightower for fumbling. He put our best RB on the pine. But yes, if you go back to they way back time machine he was more forgiving. He's not anymore. If Ozigbo fumbles again, helmet or no helmet I stand by he's outta here. +1. Precisely. I agree with everything you just stated.

08-19-2019, 08:31 AM	#17
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more I can see us keeping 4 RBs: Kamara Murray Washington Ozigbo Zach Line will be back at FB. Rodgers, Williams and any other flavour of the week will be gone. SmashMouth likes this.

08-19-2019, 08:44 AM	#18
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more Originally Posted by The Dude Except for that fumble... But I think we all could live with a fumble every now and then if he plays like he did last night!

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more Originally Posted by hitta Justin Hardee has real upside and I wish we'd give him a real chance at CB instead of relegating him to special teams. The guy has impressed me since the first time I saw him on the field. You may think me crazy, but I think he could be the answer to our No 2 CB as I believe he has higher upside than Eli Apple. Well, that's why they found him a job on special teams, they could see he was seriously quick, sudden... Again, just like with Dan Arnold, many of these guys the Saints felt were mis-cast and are trying to fit them into a new position, just starting out at the NFL level... It'll require a lot, a lot of work, but the rewards will be awesome, and needed with the obvious cap cramp we're coming to with our latest draft hauls... Crusader and SmashMouth like this.

08-19-2019, 08:59 AM	#20
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Five key takeaways from Saints' win vs. Chargers: Bridgewater struggles, red zone errors, more Originally Posted by Crusader I can see us keeping 4 RBs: Kamara Murray Washington Ozigbo Zach Line will be back at FB. Rodgers, Williams and any other flavour of the week will be gone. I'm not sold on Washington - he blew kick coverage twice yesterday; the INT at the goal line was on Bridgewater, but it hit him in the hands, albeit behind him... Rodgers has been with the team for only two (2) weeks and was put in immediately, including that 2-minute drive where we saw the best of Bridgewater... After two PreSeason games, while Ozigbo is promising, Nebraska didn't do enough to develop him - I can see why the back end of the RB depth chart should be affixed with a turn-style... SmashMouth and MarchingOn like this.