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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I'm confused on this point. The starting O-Line from the game: Newhouse Peat McCoy Warford Ramczyk There's absolutely nothing patchwork about our starting 5 minus Armstead that Brees will be behind next week (with Armstead) and ...

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Old 08-19-2019, 02:23 PM   #11
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Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 7 studs and duds from Saints preseason win over Chargers

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL View Post
I'm confused on this point. The starting O-Line from the game:

Newhouse
Peat
McCoy
Warford
Ramczyk

There's absolutely nothing patchwork about our starting 5 minus Armstead that Brees will be behind next week (with Armstead) and behind on Monday September 9th again with Armstead. That's a configuration the Saints have played a lot of games under in the last 2-3 years.

Did I miss something?

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McCoy didnít look all that great either. Take a look at our last 5 games last year if you want a glimpse of how they are going to look if things donít improve.
They will all look better when Armstead is in but we all know how thatís gonna go.
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Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 7 studs and duds from Saints preseason win over Chargers

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2-3 year configuration except for Armstead? Who ya watching brother?
Um, the New Orleans Saints?

Newhouse - Came from Panthers in the off season
That's why I qualified my statement with "except for Armstead".
Warford - Rookie
I believe you have Warford mixed up with McCoy. Here's Warford's signing headline: On March 9, 2017, Warford signed a four-year, $34 million contract with the New Orleans Saints. Before that he played 4 years as a starter in Detroit.
Not one player you referenced is in the LT depth chart behind Armstead.
Because just like the last 3 years, Armstead's backup is Peat. When Armstead goes out, Peat slides over and one of interior backups fills in Peat's guard spot.
Only Peat and Ramczyk have seen actual play time in a Saints jersey in our offense against an opponent.
Here are Warford's snap counts from 2018 (from ProFootballReference):

Larry Warford G 981 93.34%

Brees had 979 snaps last year. So who exactly was playing right guard for the Saints in 2018?

Maybe I should be the one asking the question "Who have you been watching, brother?"

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Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: 7 studs and duds from Saints preseason win over Chargers

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2-3 year configuration except for Armstead? Who ya watching brother?


Newhouse - Came from Panthers in the off season
Warford - Rookie
Not one player you referenced is in the LT depth chart behind Armstead.

Only Peat and Ramczyk have seen actual play time in a Saints jersey in our offense against an opponent.
EXACTLY my point, Oak. I trust they will have it together by the season opener, but RIGHT NOW you do not put Brees out there, in PRESEASON, with an O line like that. It'd be insane to do that in a meaningless game. I would not be surprised at all if Brees plays only one series against the Jets. Maybe two series if one of them is a three and out. These games are MEANINGLESS and they can't risk Brees -- the entire franchise -- getting hurt while these guys learn to play together.
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McCoy didnít look all that great either. Take a look at our last 5 games last year if you want a glimpse of how they are going to look if things donít improve.
They will all look better when Armstead is in but we all know how thatís gonna go.
The NFL did us no favors either + we had players nicked up on the O line.

3 games in 14 days? Who sets a schedule like that?

That was brutal.
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These games are MEANINGLESS
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EXACTLY my point, Oak. I trust they will have it together by the season opener, but RIGHT NOW you do not put Brees out there, in PRESEASON, with an O line like that. It'd be insane to do that in a meaningless game. I would not be surprised at all if Brees plays only one series against the Jets. Maybe two series if one of them is a three and out. These games are MEANINGLESS and they can't risk Brees -- the entire franchise -- getting hurt while these guys learn to play together.
While I do agree that it is paramount to avoid injury, that doesn't mean that preseason isn't meaningless. In addition to talent evaluation, which is clearly the #1 purpose, preseason is an opportunity to practice in a gamelike environment. I'm not sure it's helpful to McCoy for example to get his absolute first game action with Brees starting with the first snap on Monday Night Football kicking off the regular season for example.

The third game has always been the dress rehearsal for the starters. It's the game where virtually everyone starts and plays significant minutes. It's the warm-up for the regular season.

Brees can take care of himself. The starting O-line, except for maybe Armstead, will be out there. This 3rd game is the time for everyone to step up and show they are ready for the regular season.

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Any of you played O-Line? I have stated it before, a great Offensive line is more akin to synchronized swimming than individual play.

O-Line is similar to defensive back field. It is not about where everyone is, it is about where everyone thinks everyone else is going to be.

It would be good for everyone's blood pressure to allow the line to gel.
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