NFL, Saints Cuts

K Major · 08-31-2019, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/miketriplett/sta...92894746734598

What exactly am I missing here with "no separation" Austin Carr?? This guy has done nothing in New Orleans, yet he's still on the roster.

Once we get past MT, Kamara and Cook, no one else is money (see 2018 playoffs) catching the football.

brees84 · 08-31-2019, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What exactly am I missing here with "no separation" Austin Carr?? This guy has done nothing in New Orleans, yet he's still on the roster.

Once we get past MT, Kamara and Cook, no one else is money (see 2018 playoffs) catching the football.

Yeah. Carr is small guy that can be easily guarded. Not the best attributes for slot WR. Or any type WR. Lance Moore was not that athletic but compared to Carr... Carr is not chain mover... Simple as that.

jeanpierre · 08-31-2019, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

Yeah. Carr is small guy that can be easily guarded. Not the best attributes for slot WR. Or any type WR. Lance Moore was not that athletic but compared to Carr... Carr is not chain mover... Simple as that.

Check the history, you're opinion on the comparison may be premature...

#16 WR Lance Moore:

2006 CLE/NO Practice Squad

Year 1 2006 04 Gm, 00 GS, 003 Tgt, 01 Rec, 010 ReYd, 00 ReTd

Year 2 2007 16 Gm, 04 GS, 050 Tgt, 32 Rec, 302 ReYd, 02 ReTd

Year 3 2008 16 Gm, 06 GS, 121 Tgt, 79 Rec, 928 ReYd, 10 ReTd

#80 WR Austin Carr:

2017 Signed by NE as UDFA for 3 year/$1.67mil, released, Claimed on Waivers by Saints

Year 1 2017 01 Gm, 00 GS, 000 Tgt, 00 Rec, 000 ReYd, 00 ReTd

Year 2 2018 14 Gm, 02 GS, 014 Tgt, 09 Rec, 097 ReYd, 02 ReTd

Year 3 2019 ?? Gm, ?? GS, ??? Tgt, ?? Rec, ??? ReYd, ?? ReTd

Sources:

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MoorLa00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...C/CarrAu00.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Moore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin...rican_football)

brees84 · 08-31-2019, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Check the history, you're opinion on the comparison may be premature...

#16 WR Lance Moore:

2006 CLE/NO Practice Squad

Year 1 2006 04 Gm, 00 GS, 003 Tgt, 01 Rec, 010 ReYd, 00 ReTd

Year 2 2007 16 Gm, 04 GS, 050 Tgt, 32 Rec, 302 ReYd, 02 ReTd

Year 3 2008 16 Gm, 06 GS, 121 Tgt, 79 Rec, 928 ReYd, 10 ReTd

#80 WR Austin Carr:

2017 Signed by NE as UDFA for 3 year/$1.67mil, released, Claimed on Waivers by Saints

Year 1 2017 01 Gm, 00 GS, 000 Tgt, 00 Rec, 000 ReYd, 00 ReTd

Year 2 2018 14 Gm, 02 GS, 014 Tgt, 09 Rec, 097 ReYd, 02 ReTd

Year 3 2019 ?? Gm, ?? GS, ??? Tgt, ?? Rec, ??? ReYd, ?? ReTd

Sources:

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MoorLa00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...C/CarrAu00.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Moore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin...rican_football)

I just don't see that upside with Carr. He doesn't have that quickness and body control to create separation and get open. Hope I'm wrong but watching him play can't seem to think otherwise.

ChrisXVI · 08-31-2019, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What exactly am I missing here with "no separation" Austin Carr?? This guy has done nothing in New Orleans, yet he's still on the roster.

Once we get past MT, Kamara and Cook, no one else is money (see 2018 playoffs) catching the football.

I wish I could remember who said it or what the exact wording was, but I remember reading a quote once that said something to the effect of “Payton will always go with the guys that have marginal physical talent if their football IQ is off the charts.” From what I understand, Austin Carr is incredibly intelligent and probably aces the classroom portion of things.

Rell&Gold · 08-31-2019, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I wish I could remember who said it or what the exact wording was, but I remember reading a quote once that said something to the effect of “Payton will always go with the guys that have marginal physical talent if their football IQ is off the charts.” From what I understand, Austin Carr is incredibly intelligent and probably aces the classroom portion of things.

But it doesn't transfer to production

K Major · 08-31-2019, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I wish I could remember who said it or what the exact wording was, but I remember reading a quote once that said something to the effect of “Payton will always go with the guys that have marginal physical talent if their football IQ is off the charts.” From what I understand, Austin Carr is incredibly intelligent and probably aces the classroom portion of things.

It has yet to translate on Sunday's XVI.

Marginal talent usually goes home with an L. Production is all that matters at this level of football.

I expect the Saints to bring in proven vet @ WR at some point this season.

08-31-2019, 04:38 PM	#2
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: NFL, Saints Cuts Originally Posted by K Major What exactly am I missing here with "no separation" Austin Carr?? This guy has done nothing in New Orleans, yet he's still on the roster. Once we get past MT, Kamara and Cook, no one else is money (see 2018 playoffs) catching the football. Yeah. Carr is small guy that can be easily guarded. Not the best attributes for slot WR. Or any type WR. Lance Moore was not that athletic but compared to Carr... Carr is not chain mover... Simple as that. Rsanders24 likes this.
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08-31-2019, 05:00 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: NFL, Saints Cuts Originally Posted by brees84 Yeah. Carr is small guy that can be easily guarded. Not the best attributes for slot WR. Or any type WR. Lance Moore was not that athletic but compared to Carr... Carr is not chain mover... Simple as that. Check the history, you're opinion on the comparison may be premature... #16 WR Lance Moore: 2006 CLE/NO Practice Squad Year 1 2006 04 Gm, 00 GS, 003 Tgt, 01 Rec, 010 ReYd, 00 ReTd Year 2 2007 16 Gm, 04 GS, 050 Tgt, 32 Rec, 302 ReYd, 02 ReTd Year 3 2008 16 Gm, 06 GS, 121 Tgt, 79 Rec, 928 ReYd, 10 ReTd #80 WR Austin Carr: 2017 Signed by NE as UDFA for 3 year/$1.67mil, released, Claimed on Waivers by Saints Year 1 2017 01 Gm, 00 GS, 000 Tgt, 00 Rec, 000 ReYd, 00 ReTd Year 2 2018 14 Gm, 02 GS, 014 Tgt, 09 Rec, 097 ReYd, 02 ReTd Year 3 2019 ?? Gm, ?? GS, ??? Tgt, ?? Rec, ??? ReYd, ?? ReTd Sources: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MoorLa00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.c...C/CarrAu00.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Moore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin...rican_football) Rugby Saint II likes this.
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08-31-2019, 05:09 PM	#4
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: NFL, Saints Cuts Originally Posted by jeanpierre Check the history, you're opinion on the comparison may be premature... #16 WR Lance Moore: 2006 CLE/NO Practice Squad Year 1 2006 04 Gm, 00 GS, 003 Tgt, 01 Rec, 010 ReYd, 00 ReTd Year 2 2007 16 Gm, 04 GS, 050 Tgt, 32 Rec, 302 ReYd, 02 ReTd Year 3 2008 16 Gm, 06 GS, 121 Tgt, 79 Rec, 928 ReYd, 10 ReTd #80 WR Austin Carr: 2017 Signed by NE as UDFA for 3 year/$1.67mil, released, Claimed on Waivers by Saints Year 1 2017 01 Gm, 00 GS, 000 Tgt, 00 Rec, 000 ReYd, 00 ReTd Year 2 2018 14 Gm, 02 GS, 014 Tgt, 09 Rec, 097 ReYd, 02 ReTd Year 3 2019 ?? Gm, ?? GS, ??? Tgt, ?? Rec, ??? ReYd, ?? ReTd Sources: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MoorLa00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.c...C/CarrAu00.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Moore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin...rican_football) I just don't see that upside with Carr. He doesn't have that quickness and body control to create separation and get open. Hope I'm wrong but watching him play can't seem to think otherwise. Barry from MS, Rell&Gold and K Major like this.
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08-31-2019, 04:48 PM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: NFL, Saints Cuts Originally Posted by K Major What exactly am I missing here with "no separation" Austin Carr?? This guy has done nothing in New Orleans, yet he's still on the roster. Once we get past MT, Kamara and Cook, no one else is money (see 2018 playoffs) catching the football. I wish I could remember who said it or what the exact wording was, but I remember reading a quote once that said something to the effect of “Payton will always go with the guys that have marginal physical talent if their football IQ is off the charts.” From what I understand, Austin Carr is incredibly intelligent and probably aces the classroom portion of things.

08-31-2019, 04:54 PM	#6
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: NFL, Saints Cuts Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I wish I could remember who said it or what the exact wording was, but I remember reading a quote once that said something to the effect of “Payton will always go with the guys that have marginal physical talent if their football IQ is off the charts.” From what I understand, Austin Carr is incredibly intelligent and probably aces the classroom portion of things. But it doesn't transfer to production Rsanders24 and K Major like this.

08-31-2019, 04:21 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,801 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL, Saints Cuts Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/miketriplett/sta...92894746734598 What exactly am I missing here with "no separation" Austin Carr?? This guy has done nothing in New Orleans, yet he's still on the roster. Once we get past MT, Kamara and Cook, no one else is money (see 2018 playoffs) catching the football. Rsanders24 and frydaddy like this.

08-31-2019, 04:55 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,801 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NFL, Saints Cuts Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I wish I could remember who said it or what the exact wording was, but I remember reading a quote once that said something to the effect of “Payton will always go with the guys that have marginal physical talent if their football IQ is off the charts.” From what I understand, Austin Carr is incredibly intelligent and probably aces the classroom portion of things. It has yet to translate on Sunday's XVI. Marginal talent usually goes home with an L. Production is all that matters at this level of football. I expect the Saints to bring in proven vet @ WR at some point this season. Rsanders24 and ChrisXVI like this.

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