LMAO. The ultimate irony. Not hating Brooks = hating Jake, huh?

Could the same be said of not hating Jake = hating Brooks?


To draw any inference on a person's feeling about one player based on his thoughts on another is unwise. If I say that Jake is a better QB than Brooks, which is an opinion (that just happens to be true), does that mean I don't like Brooks? Have I said Brooks is a bad QB? Have I blamed him for the team's woes? Why is it that if I were to say that LT is a better back than Deuce nobody would bat an eyelash, but if I say Delhomme is a better QB than Brooks I'm an agenda-wongering pessimist who simply hates AB? And don't even pretend like you haven't said exactly that. :)

Well well well...here's comes the cavalry! I can already smell the horse shi!.

Would it also then be unwise to "draw any inference" on a person's feeling about the QB based on his/her thoughts about the defense? Would that also be unwise? Get Fu&^'in real spin doctor.

No, it certainly does not. The crap you've spewed here for years is how I know you don't like Brooks. If we won the Superbowl with Brooks as our QB I swear I do think some people would say we won it in spite of him, and you'd be right there leading the charge.

Your "agenda" has not one damn thing to do with Delhomme. Don't even "pretend like" you don't know that. Neither I not Delhomme nor Brooks have anything to do with the fact that you're an "agenda-wongering pessimist". Blame your parents for that one.

By the way Whodi, it was nice of Whodat to do what he could to divert the "conversation"...you remember...the one where you were tellling me (or trying to) that you post stuff about Louisiana players ALL the time...oh sure you do. :roll: I'm still waiting...maybe Whodat will help you look. He used to do that for some of his other deciples, so don't go thinking your special. ;)

Damn, you are reaching now saintsfan. Did Davey or did he not go to LSU? Does LSU stand for Laos State University, or maybe it stands for Lincoln State University? No, is stands for LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY. Get it? Meaning a player from LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY is gonna get my support. Cause LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY is in no other state than, yup you guessed it, LOUISIANA. Get it now? I also made a thread openly callign for Saban to be our head coach. Guess where his last college job was? I also made a thread saying the 3rd WR job was Devery's once we traded Pathon. Guess where he went to school. LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY which in in the state of......well, I hope you can figure that out yourself. How long ago was the superbowl saintfan? 6 months? If that recent to you? Would yesterday be more recent than 6 months ago? In my world it is.

HEre's my Saban thread:

http://www.blackandgold.net/site/ind...ght=nick+saban

Again LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY. Didn't know you would try to pick at something so small, but let me explain. If player A goes to LSU, played A is a hometown guy to me. If player B is from Louisiana but does not go to LSU, player B is still a hometown guy to me. Any clearer? But ya know what? This is getting us nowhere. I didn't know saying something good about a local guy could cause so many people to be offended. I guess Brooks has more crushes than just Billy.

Out of respect for Halo, that's my last reply on this junk. Brooks lovers know how to turn a good thing into drama. :roll:

Well Let's see here Whodi...a player from LSU gets your support...mine too. That's GREAT to hear. Now, moving forward...be so kind as to allow me to quote ya on a few things here brotha...

I'm reaching? I read that as "Louisiana player", don't you? Lemme quote you again if I may be so bold...

"Those who could care less about people from their home state when they do well" I do believe you said. PEOPLE FROM FROM FROM FROM FROM THEIR HOME STATE!!!!!!!!!!!! Your whole argument here is that Jake is a homestate boy right? That's how you began defending your posting of this thread (among others)...that you give props to home state players that do good things. Excuse me for pointing this out, but Davey doesn't qualify, geographically speaking. Now, I can certainly understand how you'd want to expand this little deal based on the fact that you haven't been able to locate one single solitary thread that YOU started where you're giving props to another player FROM Louisiana for having won some "NFL Sanctioned Event" or playing in the Superbowl, so you feel the need to now expand it so that you're allowed to include players that played their college ball in Louisiana. How bout you expand it even further and include any player in the NFL who's ever even been to New Orleans, to play football or otherwise. Go ahead and expand your own rules out that far and keep looking and do the following:

Fine ONE thread that YOU started with the purpose of giving props to ANY player for either winning an officialy sponsored "NFL Event" or for playing in the Superbowl. You might have a chance so long as we don't restrict you to Louisiana born players.

Oh, by the way, back home well call this Crawfishin'...or in your case, crawfishin' with gasoline draws. ;)

Reading comprehension. :wink:

In my homestate. I have made several threads about players and a coach from that school, which is in my homestate, which I support.

Stir the pot all you want, you have nothing better to do then to start petty arguments that falls back into how much you love Aaron, and how much you hate Jake. His every success eats at you so much you have to pick out little insignificant details and turn them into an argument that wasn't even based on the original thought. Just cause I don't think you are clear on this, LSU PLAYERS ARE HOMESTATE GUYS TO ME. Or do you think you only have to be born there to go to LSU? For some reason, I can believe that. Halo has asked me to move on, I suggest you do the same, cause you have done nothing but prove you have a crush on Brooks, and will pounce at any chance to discredit anyone who respects Jake. Sad, but when you support Aaron Brooks, what else do you really have but attempting to down others? Jake is from my homestate, he gets my support. LSU players attend the most successful college in my state, they get my support. Your Brooks love agenda isn't gonna change that. Find a new hobby.

I don't particularly want to further inflame the situation but.....
It's pretty obvious to me that both of you ( well 3 if you count whodat) have very strong feelings about the issue. The reality is that for more objective Saints fans (not from Louisiana, incidentally) Delhomme is someone who blossomed when thrown into a second half rally that defied the odds. He just took that momentum and kept going. In many ways, he set the standard right out of the gates, the team seemed to respond and rally around some off-field crisis' and snowball it into a memorable season.

Last year the team was genuinely hurt by significant injuries and somehow they managed a late season surge. Character. However, as we all know, when crunch time came, when it was all on the line, the playoffs beckoning with a win at HOME, the panthers were dominated. The scoreline would suggest that it was a squeaker, but it wasn't. Following the personal foul call on the Saints in the first half, the Saints just decided they were going to win ( count AB among those) and they did.

My lingering impression of Delhomme from that day is one of a gutsy leader who was outmatched. Truth be told he tried to do too much and threw some bad balls. This was the same team that had rallied through the second half of the season and was on the brink of success vs. the team that had been ridiculed by its owner. The saints won fair and square. And Brooks was obviously the more composed and clinical QB on the day. My gut feeling is that Delhomme is like a much less talented Favre, while AB is like a much less likeable Randall Cunningham. When AB is ON he will throw the 60 yard rainbow or scramble for the heart in the mouth 3rd and 10. They both have greatness in them, but neither can do it all alone. For that matter NO QB can do it alone. Try to reconcile your differences boys 'cause this is gonna be a good year for the Black and Gold. Honest. It will be.

johnnythesaint,

Well put. I appreciate your level headed reply. And to all on this thread, let's stop the finger pointing and repeated arguments. Go to the everything else board to fight. If you're going to reply please say something with substance. If it can't work I'll lock it but I don't want to and you guys know that.

Excuse me, but I didn't start this one. I called you to the floor for your intensions -- the very reason that you started this thread, and you've crawfished your way into a corner you can't get out of. It's ok. I tee'd you up and took a swing, I admit that. Maybe you can admit why you REALLY started this thread now, but I doubt you're capable. Either way, I think we all know why you started it, at least those of us that read your posts know why.

For the record, and you can look it up, I have nothing against Jake, not now and not ever. I simply recognize where all the Jake love comes from...at least most of it, and the reason you and a very select few others start threads like this one, and you apprear to be guilty as charged. Go check my post just after the 2004 Superbowl and quote me. After you've done that, THEN come back here and type "Brooks Lover" and "Jake Hater" and all that other crap followed by my name...IF you can. Know your facts before you start in with me k? In fact, how about I post it for you and save you the work. You've been searching in vain most of the day I'm sure for those "ghost" posts of yours...here's mine:

You better believe I've argured the Jake/Brooks argument. You have no idea my man...none a'tall, but there you have my feelings on Jake Delhomme all summed up nicely for you. Before you start in on callling me a "Jake Hater" or a "Brooks Lover" you might check and make sure you're not standing on shaky ground. I know why you started this little thread and you know why you started this little thread. Your opening comment pretty much says it all, substantiated by today's crawfishin'.

Hey Whodat, he used that "A" word. What are you gonna do about it? Got your RED MARKER handy? Bias much? LMAO

My work here is done...'til next time ya'll. 8)

And people ask why I retired? LOLOLOL

I get it now, you are back to ASSuming. You ASSumed why I started this thread, then ASSumed a repsonse that really had no place in the discussion. I started a thread to congratulate a guy from Louisiana. Sorry if that offends you. Every other player I named went to LSU, if I went just hometown, threre would only be about two out of actual New Orleans. But LSU is within my state and happens to be the college I love, and their players play FOR THE STATE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA, therefore, they are hometown boys form me. I am sorry I can't make you understand that Louisiana Stae University is in Louisiana, but I am sure everyone else understands that. There's always one though. Just so you are straight, I previously reported a rumor that a player from my home state won the NFL QB challenge, and after it was over I confirmed it. NOTHING in my original post says ANYTHING at all about Brooks, but all you have to do is ASSume right?

And who cares what you wrote about a Superbowl two years ago? You readily admit you were happy when he was playign bad.

And so cause he played fantastic, you want me to believe you started liking him? And I am crawfishing? Tell me about the bridge you have for sale, it's about as believable as that drivel. IF you can't accept congratulations for a player form our home state, I don't know what to tell you. My state ain't the greatest, but I am glad I grew up there, and like to see success stories form there, cause there are so few. Too bad your Jake hate doesn't allow that.