Jalen Ramsey

SaintsBro · 09-30-2019, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Honestly, we have more of those personality types than the fan base realizes.

Totally agree. Here is what I believe is the deal on that. If you can play, Payton always has room on the roster for a couple of head cases or screwballs every year. What he DOESN'T do, is let the inmates run the asylum, or let the crazy or troublesome ones dictate the nature of the team, in the locker room, and he keeps the head cases on a very VERY short leash.

This has been true as long as he's been here. He's not averse to taking risks on screwball or "difficult" type players, he will bring them in, give troubled players second chances, etc. But he is VERY very careful and risk averse about the number of them in the locker room at any given time, and he never lets them gain critical mass on the roster, or dictate their own crazy baggage onto the team, or take away from his overall messaging.

papz · 09-17-2019, 08:48 AM

We sure could use his talent... every team could. With that said, not only is he going to cost us a bunch of picks, he's looking for a monstrous extension. Ramczyk, Lattimore, Kamara, etc. are due for extensions in the near future. We also have to black holes at safety and corners that can't cover. Those picks and that money will be crucial to the long term success of our team.

It's going to be a pass for me.

Rugby Saint II · 09-17-2019, 02:26 PM

Oh, Hell No!

Beastmode · 09-17-2019, 02:33 PM

Chiefs are getting Ramsey is the word on the street. First round and some other stuff....blah blah.

WillMacKenzie · 09-17-2019, 02:34 PM

Teddy for Ramsey

jeanpierre · 09-17-2019, 03:15 PM

Jalen Ramsey is HOF elite and he can see the #sh*tshow that is Jaguars Mgt/Coaching which is interesting considering HC Doug Marrone was Coach Payton's first OC here with the Saints...

If we'd spend two firsts on Davenport, do we spend two firsts on Ramsey?

With the looming possibility we collapse with Brees retirement and of Trevor Lawrence there and we continue to look like crap with Check-down Bridgewater...

cmike · 09-18-2019, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If we'd spend two firsts on Davenport, do we spend to firsts on Ramsey?

Send them a 1st, PJ and Davenport right now.

rezburna · 09-18-2019, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Jalen Ramsey is HOF elite and he can see the #sh*tshow that is Jaguars Mgt/Coaching which is interesting considering HC Doug Marrone was Coach Payton's first OC here with the Saints...

If we'd spend two firsts on Davenport, do we spend to firsts on Ramsey?

With the looming possibility we collapse with Brees retirement and of Trevor Lawrence there and we continue to look like crap with Check-down Bridgewater...

I’d take Jalen Ramsey and pay him even if it meant that Marshon Lattimore walks in free agency. Jalen Ramsey is the better player. I love Marshon, but Jalen is a clear upgrade.

K Major · 09-18-2019, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d take Jalen Ramsey and pay him even if it meant that Marshon Lattimore walks in free agency. Jalen Ramsey is the better player. I love Marshon, but Jalen is a clear upgrade.

Without a doubt. He's consistently good. Slot, boundaries you name it.

Only person I put in his company is Patrick Petersen at the position.

Chiefs (severe need at CB), Philly & Ravens could be potential landing spots for Jalen.

jeanpierre · 09-18-2019, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d take Jalen Ramsey and pay him even if it meant that Marshon Lattimore walks in free agency. Jalen Ramsey is the better player. I love Marshon, but Jalen is a clear upgrade.

Yeah, Jalen is clearly better; only way you get two CBs like that is if one falls to you in the draft...

If you've got two under contract, chances are you got nothing else on defense, talent-wise, under contract...

09-30-2019, 09:42 AM	#1
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jalen Ramsey Originally Posted by rezburna Honestly, we have more of those personality types than the fan base realizes. Totally agree. Here is what I believe is the deal on that. If you can play, Payton always has room on the roster for a couple of head cases or screwballs every year. What he DOESN'T do, is let the inmates run the asylum, or let the crazy or troublesome ones dictate the nature of the team, in the locker room, and he keeps the head cases on a very VERY short leash. This has been true as long as he's been here. He's not averse to taking risks on screwball or "difficult" type players, he will bring them in, give troubled players second chances, etc. But he is VERY very careful and risk averse about the number of them in the locker room at any given time, and he never lets them gain critical mass on the roster, or dictate their own crazy baggage onto the team, or take away from his overall messaging.

09-17-2019, 08:48 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Jalen Ramsey We sure could use his talent... every team could. With that said, not only is he going to cost us a bunch of picks, he's looking for a monstrous extension. Ramczyk, Lattimore, Kamara, etc. are due for extensions in the near future. We also have to black holes at safety and corners that can't cover. Those picks and that money will be crucial to the long term success of our team. It's going to be a pass for me. Crusader likes this.

09-17-2019, 02:26 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Jalen Ramsey Oh, Hell No!

09-17-2019, 02:33 PM	#4
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Jalen Ramsey Chiefs are getting Ramsey is the word on the street. First round and some other stuff....blah blah.
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09-17-2019, 02:34 PM	#5
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Jalen Ramsey Teddy for Ramsey foreverfan and SmashMouth like this.

09-17-2019, 03:15 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jalen Ramsey Jalen Ramsey is HOF elite and he can see the #sh*tshow that is Jaguars Mgt/Coaching which is interesting considering HC Doug Marrone was Coach Payton's first OC here with the Saints... If we'd spend two firsts on Davenport, do we spend two firsts on Ramsey? With the looming possibility we collapse with Brees retirement and of Trevor Lawrence there and we continue to look like crap with Check-down Bridgewater... SmashMouth, cmike and rezburna like this.
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09-18-2019, 08:20 AM	#7
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Jalen Ramsey Originally Posted by jeanpierre If we'd spend two firsts on Davenport, do we spend to firsts on Ramsey? Send them a 1st, PJ and Davenport right now.

09-18-2019, 09:03 AM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Jalen Ramsey Originally Posted by jeanpierre Jalen Ramsey is HOF elite and he can see the #sh*tshow that is Jaguars Mgt/Coaching which is interesting considering HC Doug Marrone was Coach Payton's first OC here with the Saints... If we'd spend two firsts on Davenport, do we spend to firsts on Ramsey? With the looming possibility we collapse with Brees retirement and of Trevor Lawrence there and we continue to look like crap with Check-down Bridgewater... I’d take Jalen Ramsey and pay him even if it meant that Marshon Lattimore walks in free agency. Jalen Ramsey is the better player. I love Marshon, but Jalen is a clear upgrade. jeanpierre likes this.

09-18-2019, 10:31 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jalen Ramsey Originally Posted by rezburna I’d take Jalen Ramsey and pay him even if it meant that Marshon Lattimore walks in free agency. Jalen Ramsey is the better player. I love Marshon, but Jalen is a clear upgrade. Without a doubt. He's consistently good. Slot, boundaries you name it. Only person I put in his company is Patrick Petersen at the position. Chiefs (severe need at CB), Philly & Ravens could be potential landing spots for Jalen. rezburna likes this.

09-18-2019, 11:40 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jalen Ramsey Originally Posted by rezburna I’d take Jalen Ramsey and pay him even if it meant that Marshon Lattimore walks in free agency. Jalen Ramsey is the better player. I love Marshon, but Jalen is a clear upgrade. Yeah, Jalen is clearly better; only way you get two CBs like that is if one falls to you in the draft... If you've got two under contract, chances are you got nothing else on defense, talent-wise, under contract... rezburna likes this.

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