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SmashMouth 09-22-2019 06:44 PM

Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks
 
"Check down" Teddy doesn't screw it up for the Saints.

Game ball to the Defense, Special Teams, and Kamara.

12th man was never a factor today.

Win shows the Saints are more well rounded than many realized.



Who Dat !


:bng:

SmashMouth 09-22-2019 06:45 PM

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ChrisXVI 09-22-2019 06:52 PM

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Well, like I said in the game thread...

1. We gave up 500 yards of offense.
2. Wilson dropped back 50 times and we didn’t sack him once.
3. We have nothing behind Kamara at RB.
4. Through three games, Jared Cook is averaging 1.6 catch/23 yards/0 TD’s per game.

K Major 09-22-2019 06:55 PM

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Demario Davis was really good today. Directly responsible for the stops on 4th down runs.

He gets my game ball on defense.

Lord_Saint83 09-22-2019 07:01 PM

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I'd give Apple the game ball too for not screwing up this game

blackangold 09-22-2019 07:01 PM

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I think the good points are easy for all to see today... So the bad:

1. Pass coverage in zone defense is still a huge issue. We continue to play zone and continue to give up the easy pass. A lot of garbage yards at the end of the game but it didn't look good.

2. AJ Klein is awful against the pass and shouldn't be on the field.

3. Play calling to start the game was bad. We need to rely on the running game. Looked like we figured that out in the 2nd half.

4. Teddy is what we expected. He isn't good, he is below average, if everyone around him plays great we have a shot. If we get behind in games we have no shot with Teddy at QB.

5. Jared Cook sucks. Not only does he suck but he looks uninterested. Taysom Hill is a better TE.

SmashMouth 09-22-2019 07:03 PM

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FailClowns post from earlier today did not age well.

vpheughan 09-22-2019 07:12 PM

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Meanwhile in Indy the Colts beat the Clowns and the Saints beat the Hags a win is a win is a win! IF and BUT don't change IS 33 - 27!

cmike 09-22-2019 07:12 PM

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Anyone other than Russell at QB today and we get 3+ sacks.

ChrisXVI 09-22-2019 07:24 PM

Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks
 
I think Bridgewater made some big strides today. He stopped trying to do too much and just started getting the ball to his playmakers. This was in a very hostile environment too... Brees has had some stinkers in Seattle.

foreverfan 09-22-2019 07:36 PM

Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks
 
Well, like I said in the game thread...

1. We gave up 500 yards of offense. DIDN'T MATTER
2. Wilson dropped back 50 times and we didn’t sack him once. GREAT QB
3. We have nothing behind Kamara at RB. NOBODY IS LIKE KAMARA
4. Through three games, Jared Cook is averaging 1.6 catch/23 yards/0 TD’s per game. WORRY SOME FOR TE

CHA_CHING 09-22-2019 07:36 PM

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Great, couldn't be happier with today's results after dreading this all week.

To answer your point on the 12th man; they're out bandwagonning the Chiefs and Rams now. Texas A&M called and wants their slogan back.

cmike 09-22-2019 07:40 PM

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Latt is allowing too many receptions.

Lord_Saint83 09-22-2019 07:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmike (Post 857315)
Anyone other than Russell at QB today and we get 3+ sacks.

Yea, that little bastard is as slippery as Kamara

jeanpierre 09-22-2019 08:09 PM

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Positives:

I'm positive we've got to have better play from the QB position; Bridgewater had opportunities and just can't get it done...

Ramczyk and McCoy each had penalties, but they also made some impressive adjustments in-game today without Drew's leadership...

It's killing me we just extended Michael Thomas, who played tough, bravely today and we can't get the ball downfield to him...

Jared Cook was a waste of money and I wouldn't be surprised to sign a FA or see Dan Arnold promoted if he can make the weight...

Eli Apple atoned in a big way with his strip-fumble today; the front four, including the rotation was huge today, huge...

If the Kicking game handles the snap exchanges, doesn't muff a punt - they're Special Team Unit of the Week in the NFL...

I'll say it and I was wrong for years - Sean Payton ain't sh*t without Drew Brees - Brees has been worth every penny we've ever paid him...

jeanpierre 09-22-2019 08:26 PM

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Back to Ryan Ramczyk who'd shut down J.J. Watt in Week One...


blackangold 09-22-2019 08:30 PM

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One thing not mentioned... the D against the run was lights out!

I had several posts about how bad our run D looked to start the year... man did they look solid today. Going to need that against the cowboys.

K Major 09-22-2019 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 857340)
Back to Ryan Ramczyk who'd shut down J.J. Watt in Week One...

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...09160195510273

Romo mentioned it ...

At RT, Ryan is as close to elite as you can get.

Lord_Saint83 09-22-2019 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 857342)
One thing not mentioned... the D against the run was lights out!

I had several posts about how bad our run D looked to start the year... man did they look solid today. Going to need that against the cowboys.


Yea, cause if see have to see that clown zeke do that damn feed me sh*t all game, i might have to buy a new tv.

SaintGnome 09-22-2019 09:00 PM

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I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy.

Rell&Gold 09-22-2019 09:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 857336)
Positives:

I'm positive we've got to have better play from the QB position; Bridgewater had opportunities and just can't get it done...

Ramczyk and McCoy each had penalties, but they also made some impressive adjustments in-game today without Drew's leadership...

It's killing me we just extended Michael Thomas, who played tough, bravely today and we can't get the ball downfield to him...

Jared Cook was a waste of money and I wouldn't be surprised to sign a FA or see Dan Arnold promoted if he can make the weight...

Eli Apple atoned in a big way with his strip-fumble today; the front four, including the rotation was huge today, huge...

If the Kicking game handles the snap exchanges, doesn't muff a punt - they're Special Team Unit of the Week in the NFL...

I'll say it and I was wrong for years - Sean Payton ain't sh*t without Drew Brees - Brees has been worth every penny we've ever paid him...

He almost blew out Seattle at home by 22 without Brees. Where's the logic? Can't remember last time Saints won in Seattle

Halo 09-22-2019 09:19 PM

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This really wasn't the same Seahawks team. That said it's still very hard to win in Seattle. Their offense was kind of a mess and playcall was sketchy at times. Their Coaching decisions and risks they took were at times illogical. Maybe luck has run out on Pete Carroll?

That said, I was impressed with the Saints team effort. Every squad scored - offense, defense, special teams. We made adjustments in-game, tuned the offense to play to Bridgewater's strengths and I think the Seahawk's and their fans were probably stunned. Although the penalties still happened, I felt we played a very methodical game and got the most out of players. When players failed to perform, we stopped relying on them.

Halo 09-22-2019 09:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 857346)
I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy.

FYI, in 2010 moments after winning SuperBowl 44, there were people complaining that we didn't score enough points in the game and complained that we didn't throw the ball enough.... after winning the SuperBowl. Just sayin'.

jeanpierre 09-22-2019 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 857350)
He almost blew out Seattle at home by 22 without Brees. Where's the logic? Can't remember last time Saints won in Seattle

You really think that Seattle team will make the playoffs as they are now?

jeanpierre 09-22-2019 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 857343)
Romo mentioned it ...

At RT, Ryan is as close to elite as you can get.

Bet Romo wishes he had a Ryan Ramczyk protecting him...

jeanpierre 09-22-2019 09:46 PM

Re: Observations from Saints' win over Seahawks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 857346)
I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy.

How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game...

Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game...

We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to make the kill-shots, keep the foot on the gas, with the last foot boarding the plane is the one coming off their throat...

jeanpierre 09-22-2019 09:50 PM

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Keeping it real, only way this is better if he's sporting the Gordon Minshew 70s look...

AK did it all today - great performance, great attitude...



SaintGnome 09-22-2019 09:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 857357)
How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game...

Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game...

We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to put them away, keep the foot on the gas, and the last foot that boards the plane is the one coming off their collective throat...

So what is an acceptable ending score? A 2 score win, after garbage time, in one of the hardest places to win on the road isn't good enough, what will make you happy?

saintfan 09-22-2019 09:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 857357)
How many passes did Bridgewater attempt, complete downfield? If I'm disappointed, it's because we got an amazing defensive, kicking game, and the offensive line effort and in got check-downs all game...

Lotta meat left on the bone today. And that defense was in the bottom half of the league after facing such juggernauts as CIN and a PIT team without Roethlisberger for more than half the game...

We've learned nothing from the NFC CG loss if when teams start to collapse, we've got to make the kill-shots, keep the foot on the gas, with the last foot boarding the plane is the one coming off their throat...

I think you have to understand that our offense without Drew just isnt the same. It's like we have to learn how to do it differently. Teddy hasn't played any meaningful football in 3 years. I was frustrated too, at times, but I think the team has to find itself after losing its leader.

neugey 09-22-2019 10:02 PM

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For those feeling lackluster about Teddy, we almost certainly had to play it close to the vest, considering the early lead, the crowd and the wet weather. Next week when we are home and it's dry, we will then look to be more assertive with Teddy throwing. Very well-coached game today - in fact, we outcoached Carroll today especially considering their bad time/score management. But I guess if I had a nose that needed to be stitched I might not be coaching perfectly either LOL.

st thomas 09-22-2019 10:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 857346)
I am honestly surprised at all of the negative talk. Crapping on Teddy or one defensive player or another. Before the season started, looking at the schedule I would not have been surprised to have seen this game as a loss even with Drew as the starter. Seattle is not an easy team, Wilson is an elite QB, and they have a very good defense and yet we handled them, and it only ended somewhat close due to garbage time. To listen to a lot of these posts you'd think we lost. How many points do you need to win by to be happy? Do we have to complete every pass? Defend every pass? Was Seattle supposed to have zero yards, zero points, and we score on every play? I'm disgusted. After the Kamara screen pass Teddy settled in and looked like a good starting QB and the defense did it's job when needed to. Sorry if this wasn't a 60-0 win with a second string QB to make ya'll happy.



What’s this y’all crap we win as a team and lose as one. If your looking for a win or a loss why do we even have this site ahhh yes its to discuss and share our feelings and observe how we need to get better. Even if it’s harsh criticism you get high praise if u excel. When u come hear and bash us boys or girls ur bashing the saints too. [emoji3577]bro

jnormand 09-22-2019 10:21 PM

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Yeah what's with the hate on Teddy? The guy did what he needed to do and did enough to get the W. He played smart and a bit conservative. I'm with a couple other posters who believe that he'll just get better and more confident.

This game was not nearly as close as the scoreboard.

Defense did great. They harrassed Wilson all game long. Most other QBs in the NFL would've been dropped multiple times and probably thrown at least a pick or 2 with that pressure.

Secondary was a little loose at times but played good enough to win.

This team will continue to improve.

SaintGnome 09-22-2019 10:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 857363)
What’s this y’all crap we win as a team and lose as one. If your looking for a win or a loss why do we even have this site ahhh yes its to discuss and share our feelings and observe how we need to get better. Even if it’s harsh criticism you get high praise if u excel. When u come hear and bash us boys or girls ur bashing the saints too. [emoji3577]bro

Fair enough, I don't like it, but free speech, but I stand behind MY opinion :)

st thomas 09-22-2019 10:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 857366)
Fair enough, I don't like it, but free speech, but I stand behind MY opinion :)



Good man

st thomas 09-22-2019 10:36 PM

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I was a believer that teddy could pull this off. Now he can get a lot better and has to , WHO WANTS TO BEAT THEM COWBOYS.

Thirty3 09-22-2019 11:10 PM

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Didn’t hit a wide receiver till just before the half. 177 yds all game. Great play every where else on team. Teddy HAD it in him. Can he- will he be improve against Dallas at home? Surprise me please.

st thomas 09-22-2019 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 857370)
Didn’t hit a wide receiver till just before the half. 177 yds all game. Great play every where else on team. Teddy HAD it in him. Can he- will he be improve against Dallas at home? Surprise me please.



You would think he could play lights out at home.fans will get restless

The Dude 09-22-2019 11:52 PM

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With Brees down we really miss the experience Unger brought. McCoy is outstanding but lacks the experience to call out adjustments which I feel Unger would have been better suited for in Brees absence. When Brees is under center he takes on all that responsibility. Could be partially to blame for some of the penalties

jeanpierre 09-22-2019 11:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 857359)
So what is an acceptable ending score? A 2 score win, after garbage time, in one of the hardest places to win on the road isn't good enough, what will make you happy?

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 857361)
I think you have to understand that our offense without Drew just isnt the same. It's like we have to learn how to do it differently. Teddy hasn't played any meaningful football in 3 years. I was frustrated too, at times, but I think the team has to find itself after losing its leader.

I watched the game, I've rewatched the game - Lots of meat left on the bone; Bridgewater is just not adjusting to the game fast enough.

Two pt conversion, Carr was open in the endzone, Teddy hastily pulls it down and runs tentatively till he's stopped...

Several times there were opportunities for back-shoulder throws and Teddy is just not taking those throws.

From the one foot line at the goal, he held the ball down at this waist instead of quickly extending it over the goal line...

Most of the first half the offense was sluggish getting in, out of the huddle and the team didn't look like they were on the snap count...

In the first half, before the scoring screen pass by Kamara, Bridgewater completed only one pass over 10 yards, a 14 yd completion to M. Thomas...

On the day, Bridgewater was 19 of 27 for 177 PaYds, that total PaYds includes a 29 PaYd PaTD on a screen pass (again short att) to Kamara who made a tremendous run to get the score...

That's less than ten yards a completion, that's not gonna get it. Rookies are playing better than that and they don't have AK or Can'tGuardMike...

Look, I was thrilled with the win, ask my krewe who was with me today - but without the Saints DST scoring 13 pts, we lose 27-20...

No, Bridgewater isn't getting it done, he must play better against conference rival, playoff implications game vs Dallas...

nola_swammi 09-23-2019 01:18 AM

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Yadda yadda yadda!!! If Brees perform exactly like Bridgewater with a W without a interception y'all would not even mention that a wr didn't receive a catch till the second quarter. The concept is play to what the defense give you plus the time of possession was in favor in 1st quarter to the Seahawks because of the punt return.


I am sure once Bridgewater become more comfortable and familiar with the 1st unit the ball will come out faster but to criticize so harshly after a win lead me to believe that some of you probably would've preferred a lost so you can criticize even more by saying Taysom should be the starter. If so, I hope y'all continue to sip on your haterade while Bridgewater thrive


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