Why is Lattimore Slipping?

Rugby Saint II · 09-25-2019, 12:30 PM

That's some great insight rez. The one thing I know about zone coverage is that with coach Payton scheming and Drew Brees throwing the ball we can slice the defenses in the seams. To me that is where the weakness is with zone coverage. Payton is a genius at clearing out zones and then having the players settle into the seam for a reception.

rezburna · 09-25-2019, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

That's some great insight rez. The one thing I know about zone coverage is that with coach Payton scheming and Drew Brees throwing the ball we can slice the defenses in the seams. To me that is where the weakness is with zone coverage. Payton is a genius at clearing out zones and then having the players settle into the seam for a reception.

The seams are wide open in the Cover 3, especially if your run 4 verticals. Cover 2 is open right down the middle as well as the corner route depending on if it’s sink or hard flats. Cover 4 should lock up the seams. Cover 6 can be vulnerable to the seams, so overall you’re right. A lot of coverages are weak there.

Rugby Saint II · 09-26-2019, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The seams are wide open in the Cover 3, especially if your run 4 verticals. Cover 2 is open right down the middle as well as the corner route depending on if it’s sink or hard flats. Cover 4 should lock up the seams. Cover 6 can be vulnerable to the seams, so overall you’re right. A lot of coverages are weak there.

I try to learn something everyday. You have filled my quota for the day. Thanks rez.

Vrillon82 · 09-28-2019, 02:34 AM

I would subtract all stats from the Rams game and see where we were, officiating was so bad in that game that no stat mattered when you start doing a tally.

I know about 60 of those yards Kupp got on Lattimore in tight coverage face masking Lattimore to the house.

Then you got Hopkins, thats tall task for any CB to cover.

K Major · 09-30-2019, 07:54 AM

Bump ...

He's had a tough couple of weeks but Marshon sure did look spectacular last night though & eliminated a threat for Dallas.

Good week of preparation, film study & execution on the big stage.

Confidence building.

TheOak · 09-30-2019, 08:03 AM

As it was explained and confirmed by Lattimore, he plays to his competition and tends to get lazy with less skillful receivers.

Beastmode · 09-30-2019, 08:21 AM

He kinda admitted a while back he was relying too much on his speed and less on proper technique so yeah, he does get lazy at times. Agree, he seems to snap out of it if it's a high profile WR like last night with Amari.

SaintsBro · 09-30-2019, 09:09 AM

This was freaking Amari Cooper out there, in prime time, and even if Cooper wasn't 100% healthy, you play the man in front of you and Lattimore matched him and pretty much locked him down. He's obviously got some areas where he can improve but I'm nowhere near ready to claim Lattimore to be an Achilles Heel or to give up on the guy yet.

ChrisXVI · 09-30-2019, 10:31 AM

I’m totally buying the zone defense excuse now. They finally let Latt go man to man and play press coverage and we saw the results.

rezburna · 09-30-2019, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I’m totally buying the zone defense excuse now. They finally let Latt go man to man and play press coverage and we saw the results.

If Dennis Allen wants to run zone he should trade for Richard Sherman, Josh Norman, or Darius Slay. They’re zone masters. The roster we assembled is man to man through and through.

09-25-2019, 12:30 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Why is Lattimore Slipping? That's some great insight rez. The one thing I know about zone coverage is that with coach Payton scheming and Drew Brees throwing the ball we can slice the defenses in the seams. To me that is where the weakness is with zone coverage. Payton is a genius at clearing out zones and then having the players settle into the seam for a reception.

09-25-2019, 04:57 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Why is Lattimore Slipping? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II That's some great insight rez. The one thing I know about zone coverage is that with coach Payton scheming and Drew Brees throwing the ball we can slice the defenses in the seams. To me that is where the weakness is with zone coverage. Payton is a genius at clearing out zones and then having the players settle into the seam for a reception. The seams are wide open in the Cover 3, especially if your run 4 verticals. Cover 2 is open right down the middle as well as the corner route depending on if it’s sink or hard flats. Cover 4 should lock up the seams. Cover 6 can be vulnerable to the seams, so overall you’re right. A lot of coverages are weak there. Crusader, woody and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Why is Lattimore Slipping? Originally Posted by rezburna The seams are wide open in the Cover 3, especially if your run 4 verticals. Cover 2 is open right down the middle as well as the corner route depending on if it’s sink or hard flats. Cover 4 should lock up the seams. Cover 6 can be vulnerable to the seams, so overall you’re right. A lot of coverages are weak there. I try to learn something everyday. You have filled my quota for the day. Thanks rez. SaintsBro and rezburna like this.

09-28-2019, 02:34 AM	#4
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09-30-2019, 07:54 AM	#5
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Why is Lattimore Slipping? He kinda admitted a while back he was relying too much on his speed and less on proper technique so yeah, he does get lazy at times. Agree, he seems to snap out of it if it's a high profile WR like last night with Amari. Danno and SmashMouth like this.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Why is Lattimore Slipping? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I’m totally buying the zone defense excuse now. They finally let Latt go man to man and play press coverage and we saw the results. If Dennis Allen wants to run zone he should trade for Richard Sherman, Josh Norman, or Darius Slay. They’re zone masters. The roster we assembled is man to man through and through. K Major likes this.