Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars

CHA_CHING · 10-13-2019, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

It is undoubtedly slow, but the let’s not pretend Brees hasn’t had games like this (worse games actually) in a losing effort.

Yeah, we usually lose the games where we fail to score less 17 points. So far this season, we've won 2 low scoring affairs and I'm happy with that.

cmike · 10-13-2019, 04:43 PM

Teddy threw a lot of baaaddd passes today. Throws that could have kept drives alive and points on the board.

Danno · 10-13-2019, 04:45 PM

It looks like Teddy is playing not to lose. Whether thats on Payton or TB, we don't know.

Our defense is looking about as close to elite as you can get.

Murray and Cook looked good today.

WW_Who_Dat · 10-13-2019, 05:14 PM

I think if anybody was still harboring thoughts that TB was the heir apparent you just had a hard slap of reality today. The man was scared and throwing the ball all over with little control today. He could not read the defense and went to his safety valves MT AK and seldom looked any place else. He looked absolutely zoned out on the bench. Sure he did not lose the game but Murray and Cook and Thomas carried the offense today when it counted.

rezburna · 10-13-2019, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

I think if anybody was still harboring thoughts that TB was the heir apparent you just had a hard slap of reality today. The man was scared and throwing the ball all over with little control today. He could not read the defense and went to his safety valves MT AK and seldom looked any place else. He looked absolutely zoned out on the bench. Sure he did not lose the game but Murray and Cook and Thomas carried the offense today when it counted.

Michael Thomas and Kamara have been carrying the offense since last year even with Brees in the line up. There’s a reason we have been looking for help at receiver. The running game was non existent for most of the contest and we were playing a good defense.

Danno · 10-13-2019, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

I think if anybody was still harboring thoughts that TB was the heir apparent you just had a hard slap of reality today. The man was scared and throwing the ball all over with little control today. He could not read the defense and went to his safety valves MT AK and seldom looked any place else. He looked absolutely zoned out on the bench. Sure he did not lose the game but Murray and Cook and Thomas carried the offense today when it counted.

Disagree with most of this.

He didn't look scared.

How do you know he couldn't read the defense? You already looked at your all-22?

He looked at other options before checking down most of the game.

He din't look "zoned out" on the bench. They showed him on the bench 1 time.

He din't have a good game, but some of you guys...

The Dude · 10-13-2019, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

I think if anybody was still harboring thoughts that TB was the heir apparent you just had a hard slap of reality today. The man was scared and throwing the ball all over with little control today. He could not read the defense and went to his safety valves MT AK and seldom looked any place else. He looked absolutely zoned out on the bench. Sure he did not lose the game but Murray and Cook and Thomas carried the offense today when it counted.

To me he’s nothing more than a viable backup. Hot and cold and inconsistent. That being said he did attempt to spread the ball around a lot more today. Ginn got several targets, Cooks and J Hill.

K Major · 10-13-2019, 05:27 PM

Off topic ... stats says the Saints rank 19th defensively??

The last 3 weeks I see an ELiTE defense that's hard to run and pass on.

Just ask Gurley, Zeke, Fournette etc.

Danno · 10-13-2019, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Off topic ... stats says the Saints rank 19th defensively??

The last 3 weeks I see an ELiTE defense that's hard to run and pass on.

Just ask Gurley, Zeke, Fournette etc.

I think we gave up tons in the first 2 games.

jeanpierre · 10-13-2019, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It was an ugly win... But it is still a win.

Check Down Betty showed up today.

Should have run Murray more.

On to next week.

Considering Kamara was definitely playing hurt? yes, we should have banged away more with Murray today...

10-13-2019, 04:31 PM	#1
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars Originally Posted by rezburna It is undoubtedly slow, but the let’s not pretend Brees hasn’t had games like this (worse games actually) in a losing effort. Yeah, we usually lose the games where we fail to score less 17 points. So far this season, we've won 2 low scoring affairs and I'm happy with that. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

10-13-2019, 04:43 PM	#2
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars Teddy threw a lot of baaaddd passes today. Throws that could have kept drives alive and points on the board.

10-13-2019, 04:45 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars It looks like Teddy is playing not to lose. Whether thats on Payton or TB, we don't know. Our defense is looking about as close to elite as you can get. Murray and Cook looked good today. Crusader, Barry from MS, SmashMouth and 3 others like this.

10-13-2019, 05:14 PM	#4
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,279 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars I think if anybody was still harboring thoughts that TB was the heir apparent you just had a hard slap of reality today. The man was scared and throwing the ball all over with little control today. He could not read the defense and went to his safety valves MT AK and seldom looked any place else. He looked absolutely zoned out on the bench. Sure he did not lose the game but Murray and Cook and Thomas carried the offense today when it counted.

10-13-2019, 05:18 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat I think if anybody was still harboring thoughts that TB was the heir apparent you just had a hard slap of reality today. The man was scared and throwing the ball all over with little control today. He could not read the defense and went to his safety valves MT AK and seldom looked any place else. He looked absolutely zoned out on the bench. Sure he did not lose the game but Murray and Cook and Thomas carried the offense today when it counted. Michael Thomas and Kamara have been carrying the offense since last year even with Brees in the line up. There’s a reason we have been looking for help at receiver. The running game was non existent for most of the contest and we were playing a good defense. SmashMouth and jeanpierre like this.

10-13-2019, 05:22 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat I think if anybody was still harboring thoughts that TB was the heir apparent you just had a hard slap of reality today. The man was scared and throwing the ball all over with little control today. He could not read the defense and went to his safety valves MT AK and seldom looked any place else. He looked absolutely zoned out on the bench. Sure he did not lose the game but Murray and Cook and Thomas carried the offense today when it counted. Disagree with most of this. He didn't look scared. How do you know he couldn't read the defense? You already looked at your all-22? He looked at other options before checking down most of the game. He din't look "zoned out" on the bench. They showed him on the bench 1 time. He din't have a good game, but some of you guys... SaintFanInATLHELL, jnormand, Crusader and 3 others like this.

10-13-2019, 08:18 PM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat I think if anybody was still harboring thoughts that TB was the heir apparent you just had a hard slap of reality today. The man was scared and throwing the ball all over with little control today. He could not read the defense and went to his safety valves MT AK and seldom looked any place else. He looked absolutely zoned out on the bench. Sure he did not lose the game but Murray and Cook and Thomas carried the offense today when it counted. To me he’s nothing more than a viable backup. Hot and cold and inconsistent. That being said he did attempt to spread the ball around a lot more today. Ginn got several targets, Cooks and J Hill.
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10-13-2019, 05:27 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars Off topic ... stats says the Saints rank 19th defensively?? The last 3 weeks I see an ELiTE defense that's hard to run and pass on. Just ask Gurley, Zeke, Fournette etc. Barry from MS and SmashMouth like this.

10-13-2019, 05:28 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars Originally Posted by K Major Off topic ... stats says the Saints rank 19th defensively?? The last 3 weeks I see an ELiTE defense that's hard to run and pass on. Just ask Gurley, Zeke, Fournette etc. I think we gave up tons in the first 2 games. K Major likes this.

10-13-2019, 05:35 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Jaguars Originally Posted by SmashMouth It was an ugly win... But it is still a win. Check Down Betty showed up today. Should have run Murray more. On to next week. Considering Kamara was definitely playing hurt? yes, we should have banged away more with Murray today... jnormand, WillMacKenzie and SmashMouth like this.

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