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ChrisXVI 11-10-2019 06:15 PM

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Brees and Ginn just never developed great chemistry. Ginn’s dropping stuff on the shorter routes and when Ginn runs a go route Brees only throws it 25 yards.

darksoul35 11-10-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 866855)
Brees and Ginn just never developed great chemistry. Ginn’s dropping stuff on the shorter routes and when Ginn runs a go route Brees only throws it 25 yards.

Ginns problem his whole career is he is more worried about taking big hits than securing the catch. 5 hands to the face penalties was Bs. 3 of them they called on 3rd downs. The Oline played horrible but I think 2 or 3 of those sacks was because he was holding the ball too long. They can call hands to the face every other play but they called 20 on just one team. We will be just fine and Brees is not done.

darksoul35 11-10-2019 07:23 PM

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Sorry Chris I didn't mean to reply that to you I accidently hit it

jnormand 11-10-2019 07:47 PM

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Good god. We're 7-2. ****in relax people. It's almost more annoying when we win a lot of games, because all some of you do is *****, gripe and overreact after a loss.

Brees is washed up. Sean Payton needs fired.

****in relax people. Go back and snuggle your teddy bear and wait for next game.

WhoDat!656 11-10-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 866755)
Looks like he’s 45. Offensive line doesn’t even want to block for him anymore. The locker room is going to crumble from the top down. I see us losing out in our division and missing the playoffs. Need to use this time to see what Teddy or Hill can do when Payton opens the play book.

Sounds like your cycle has synched with WHODATINCA & Cruize!

44Champs 11-10-2019 08:43 PM

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What a sh!t post!

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44Champs 11-10-2019 08:49 PM

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This looks like the type of "sky is falling" posts you see in the Failcon Forum except theirs are justified. One bad and game and "Brees is done". How Pathetic.

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Thirty3 11-10-2019 10:40 PM

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I just stopped in to say, Have you lost your mind!!!

RailBoss 11-10-2019 11:21 PM

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Atlanta sacked Brees six times on Sunday; the Falcons had just seven on the season coming into the game. New Orleans committed a uncharacteristically high 12 penalties and finished just 3-for-12 on third down. Kamara, the Saints' do-everything back, did next to nothing on the ground, held to 24 rushing yards on just four carries.

How many of the 12 penalties did Brees commit & since he loves getting slammed to the ground so much he encouraged the Defense to sack him 6 times.


burningmetal 11-10-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 866876)
Good god. We're 7-2. ****in relax people. It's almost more annoying when we win a lot of games, because all some of you do is *****, gripe and overreact after a loss.

Brees is washed up. Sean Payton needs fired.

****in relax people. Go back and snuggle your teddy bear and wait for next game.

Feel better, hoss?

I've noticed one person overreact, by saying Brees is done.

Everyone else is justifiably upset with a 17 point loss to a 1-7 team. At home, no less. If that sits well with some people because "only one game" then I suppose some of us are more competitive than others.

nola_swammi 11-11-2019 04:45 AM

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The offensive line stunk. Couldn't run or pass block. I was expecting a let down game couldn't think it would be at home against the falcons

subguy 11-11-2019 05:20 AM

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Oh my...a bad day at the office. Move along, nothing to see here

subguy 11-11-2019 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 866783)
I've seen this exact post 2 or 3 times per season for the last 5 years.

And generally by The Dude who isn't exactly a ray of sunshine

44Champs 11-11-2019 05:51 AM

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Kamara is done.

Looks like 's 35
Only 2 TDs all year long
Doesn't have the same zip in his step as last year.
The O Line obviously doesnt want open up holes for him.
This team is going to crumble down now.
Time to put in Washington and see what he can do.


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MatthewT 11-11-2019 07:29 AM

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WR has been an issue for the past few years, Brandin Cooks and Willie Sneed have never been replaced. With that said, I would sign Dez to start opposite of MT, put Kamara at slot WR, and use the H-Back more so that Taysom can get more touches.

I do not think Brees is done, but that stat padding at the end of the game made me throw up in my mouth and is unacceptable.

K Major 11-11-2019 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 866902)
Kamara is done.

Looks like 's 35
Only 2 TDs all year long
Doesn't have the same zip in his step as last year.
The O Line obviously doesnt want open up holes for him.
This team is going to crumble down now.
Time to put in Washington and see what he can do.


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Lol.

I never truly understand the thought process of some fans after a loss (regardless of the team or record) as if it's the end of the world. Many give up way too easily. Saints simply weren't prepared & faced a divisional opponent. Congrats to the failures but we have bigger goals and it all starts with Tampa on Sunday.

The days of Brees turning un drafted WR's into super stars is over but he's far from being "done". We lost ... it's football.

st thomas 11-11-2019 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 866915)
Lol.

I never truly understand the thought process of some fans after a loss (regardless of the team or record) as if it's the end of the world. Many give up way too easily. Saints simply weren't prepared & faced a divisional opponent. Congrats to the failures but we have bigger goals and it all starts with Tampa on Sunday.

The days of Brees turning un drafted WR's into super stars is over but he's far from being "done". We lost ... it's football.



And if Payton and loomis would take your sediment and put it in there heads we wouldn’t be in this predicament . I see all this speed of low end draft choices and they are moving the chains . We have MT and molasses after him seems like.


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dam1953 11-11-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 866907)
WR has been an issue for the past few years, Brandin Cooks and Willie Sneed have never been replaced. With that said, I would sign Dez to start opposite of MT, put Kamara at slot WR, and use the H-Back more so that Taysom can get more touches.

I do not think Brees is done, but that stat padding at the end of the game made me throw up in my mouth and is unacceptable.

If you are going to play the cards in your hand that is about as good an option as any.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2019 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 866894)
Atlanta sacked Brees six times on Sunday; the Falcons had just seven on the season coming into the game. New Orleans committed a uncharacteristically high 12 penalties and finished just 3-for-12 on third down. Kamara, the Saints' do-everything back, did next to nothing on the ground, held to 24 rushing yards on just four carries.

How many of the 12 penalties did Brees commit & since he loves getting slammed to the ground so much he encouraged the Defense to sack him 6 times.

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This was not on Brees. Once Peat went down Brees had no chance. Clapp was a turnstile and Armstead had clearly not recovered from the flu which caused him to miss Friday's practice. I read some say that Brees should have stepped up into the pocket, but the pressure was coming up both the middle on Clapp AND the outside on an obviously ailing Armstead. There was no place for Brees to go. A 30 year old Brees would have had the same issues in that game. Then add to that the dropped balls that killed drives and it was an uphill climb on the offensive side.

Atlanta had nothing to lose by going for it on fourth down. That in itself adds even more pressure on a defense that was already behind the eight ball.

It was also obvious that Kamara was no where near 100% and that effectively took him out of the game. The killer though was the penalties, especially the league mandated "point of emphasis" defensive hands to the face calls.

Another BIG blow was losing Lattimore for the game. That was huge.

The Saints clearly came out flat, but it was the combination of the penalties, dropped balls, incoming health, and in game injuries that spelled the doom.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2019 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 866899)
The offensive line stunk. Couldn't run or pass block. I was expecting a let down game couldn't think it would be at home against the falcons

Armstead clearly not recovered from the flu that caused him to miss practice Friday and Peat going down early will result in a stinking offensive line.

dizzle88 11-11-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 866934)
Armstead clearly not recovered from the flu that caused him to miss practice Friday and Peat going down early will result in a stinking offensive line.

I mean, they were getting a ton of pressure whilst Peat was in there too. I hope both of our guards are replaced this offseason.

Rsanders24 11-11-2019 10:30 AM

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To me it wasn't that we lost, it was how bad we lost to a team that hasn't been able to stop anyone with their defense. Our offense was inept and downright atrocious for most of the game. 0-3 in the redzone...not even trying to throw the ball into the endzone. We have all this size and height and cant get any favorable matchups in the back corner of the endzone? I'm tired of this crap and I dont want to hear anything about one bad game, a let down, nothing of the sorts. That offensive performance was offensive, period. The defense did enough to for us to be able to win the game. This was solely on the offense and the play calling. We have no big play ability and no one but MT on offense right now and this is solely on Loomis and Payton. I dont know if we can find any WRs available that are any better than what we have now.

We have to run the ball. Brees was hold onto the ball too long yesterday and our line was getting destroyed by 3 man rushes by the worst D line in the NFL. I dont think Brees is done but he is moving in the direction of a game manager and I'm worried about his arm strength and teams are game planning for that as well. We have two good RBs give them the opportunity to develop some rhythm. 9 runs a game is a recipe for rough second have of the season. This game reminded me of the Rams game.

Might be a rough ride to the end of season...better buckle up.

Just another thought...do you think that the team played harder for TB and was more focused on doing their job than they are with Brees? Just a question...

RefsRobbedUs 11-11-2019 10:49 AM

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Falcons murdered our OL and handled our DL.
Lattimore and Peat injuries did not help

Cam Jordan was nullified.

RefsRobbedUs 11-11-2019 10:51 AM

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We need upgrades over Trequan (nice catch though) and Ginn. It's been painfully obvious. Too bad Meredith didn't work out.

44Champs 11-11-2019 10:55 AM

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Honestly, I put this loss on Payton. I love him, and I think he's a great coach. But the whole team stunk, which is usually an indication of coaching. I'm wondering if his engagement distracted him from properly preparing the team for this game.

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Rell&Gold 11-11-2019 10:56 AM

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Saints fans are officially the hardest fans to please,

foreverfan 11-11-2019 11:02 AM

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***** slap Drew... He and the entire team had a bet one the game.

Rsanders24 11-11-2019 11:11 AM

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Is Eaton that bad to where he can't back up Peat? We played worse in the second half than we did in the first. I hate bye weeks. The strength of our team got punched in the mouth and did nothing about it. I don't understand how you come out flat after a week off for a divisional game.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 866951)
Is Eaton that bad to where he can't back up Peat? We played worse in the second half than we did in the first. I hate bye weeks. The strength of our team got punched in the mouth and did nothing about it. I don't understand how you come out flat after a week off for a divisional game.

The strength of our team took a knockout punch in the first half. Armstead was a shell of his normal elite self and Peat going down early like that affected both the ability to run and pass. I wish I knew what the thinking was on Clapp being active and Easton not. The Falcons' defense smelled blood in the water with no protection left on the left and took advantage. Any other game we could have probably withstood the pressure, but not with an ailing Armstead coming in. That just goes to show how important a healthy Armstead truly is to our offense.

Rsanders24 11-11-2019 11:30 AM

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I agree with that. A lot of people bash Armstead but our tackles are always left on an island. TA and Ram dont need help but they cant do anything to help the mess we have with the interior of our offense line.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2019 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 866956)
I agree with that. A lot of people bash Armstead but our tackles are always left on an island. TA and Ram dont need help but they cant do anything to help the mess we have with the interior of our offense line.

Peat can usually hold his own, as well, but Clapp is a huge drop off.

Rsanders24 11-11-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 866961)
Peat can usually hold his own, as well, but Clapp is a huge drop off.

Clapp looked promising in relief last season but I dont know what's going on now.

jnormand 11-11-2019 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 866895)
Feel better, hoss?

I've noticed one person overreact, by saying Brees is done.

Everyone else is justifiably upset with a 17 point loss to a 1-7 team. At home, no less. If that sits well with some people because "only one game" then I suppose some of us are more competitive than others.

Hey I have no issue with people being pissed off about a loss. Especially to Atlanta in the dome. But come on man. There's being justifiably angry or disappointed and then there's just being a baby about it. I'm as competitive as the next person, maybe even more so in many cases. But some people throw a fit and make absolutely ridiculous claims.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion of course. I guess I can see logic and I understand emotions. But some people just make news for the Falcons board to look at and laugh.

I'm not loyal to any player or coach that hurts the team more than helps it. I want the Saints to win. But in the same regard, I also know that sometimes things happen and we lose.

When people completely come off the rails and post bulletin board material that's at best, laughable, its embarrassing.

The Dude 11-11-2019 01:23 PM

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The loss was on the entire team, not just Brees. We have won games with Teddy in when he produced less than Brees did yesterday. Our defense and offensive line took the day off, Brees was off and special teams didn’t do anything special. Brees is still one of the best around and to judge him from a performance in a game where everyone **** the bed is ignorant.

That being said I hate, furious rather that he and Payton continued to take dangerous shots with our starters when the game was mathematically impossible to win. Makes them both look foolish, selfish, and desperate. Not a good way to keep the team rallied around you.

dizzle88 11-11-2019 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 866971)
The loss was on the entire team, not just Brees. We have won games with Teddy in when he produced less than Brees did yesterday. Our defense and offensive line took the day off, Brees was off and special teams didn’t do anything special. Brees is still one of the best around and to judge him from a performance in a game where everyone **** the bed is ignorant.

That being said I hate, furious rather that he and Payton continued to take dangerous shots with our starters when the game was mathematically impossible to win. Makes them both look foolish, selfish, and desperate. Not a good way to keep the team rallied around you.

Special teams was the only area where we got consistent decent plays, so they were pretty special considering the product the rest of the team showed.

Deonte Harris was the only real bright spot yesterday.

K Major 11-11-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 866961)
Peat can usually hold his own, as well, but Clapp is a huge drop off.

The guy is always hurt, is also the weak link of the O line, got manhandled (pushed to the ground 3 times on yesterday) before the injury and gave up 2 sacks.

Peat is the most underwhelming, highly drafted lineman I've ever seen in black and gold. A man that large shouldn't get tossed around in the manner he does. He's a soft player. Saints front office missed on this draft pick.

But you're right, Clapp is awful too. Bad depth at the position.

K Major 11-11-2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 866972)
Special teams was the only area where we got consistent decent plays, so they were pretty special considering the product the rest of the team showed.

Deonte Harris was the only real bright spot yesterday.

Demario Davis was the only guy playing with passion on D yesterday. Latt did too up until he tweaked his quad/hammy.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 866975)
The guy is always hurt, is also the weak link of the O line, got manhandled (pushed to the ground 3 times on yesterday) before the injury and gave up 2 sacks.

Peat is the most underwhelming, highly drafted lineman I've ever seen in black and gold. A man that large shouldn't get tossed around in the manner he does. He's a soft player. Saints front office missed on this draft pick.

But you're right, Clapp is awful too. Bad depth at the position.

An offensive line acts as a unit. As an offensive lineman you are dependent upon the man beside you. Peat had to have known that Armstead wasn't able to pull his weight yesterday. Those two sacks may have been a by-product of the mistrust. Peat's arm injury could have also come from trying to do too much in protection.

saintfan 11-11-2019 01:54 PM

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We have one WR who can get open. ONE. Too many times Drew drops back and there's just nobody he can throw to. Bring in Dez. Sign me. Do SOMETHING at WR.

st thomas 11-11-2019 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs (Post 866940)
We need upgrades over Trequan (nice catch though) and Ginn. It's been painfully obvious. Too bad Meredith didn't work out.



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