Wide Reciever

dam1953 · 12-03-2019, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I saw a 25 yard pass that fell into TE Cook's hands and dropped with a wide open field
Cook also dropped another easy touch pass inside the end zone.
Tedd Ginn Jr has dropped so many balls this year that I hope we cut him. Those balls have landed right in his hands.

Brees decline? Sure... maybe.... who would know if wide receivers don't catch balls. I've read this argument that Brees has been on the decline since 2012.

For years Brees has made average to good receivers look great. This year we're seeing the reverse, where bad receivers are making it look like Brees' age is starting to take its toll, when that isn't the case.

Seems like we are always missing a critical piece. For years there weren't many holes in the O, but the D looked like a sieve. We were setting records on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, the defensive records were the type you don't want to own.

Once the D line came around we couldn't find a corner. Now that the D has plugged most of the holes, the O only has one reliable receiver. Thank God he's the best in the NFL.

As a Saints fan, this is totally frustrating. It has to be driving Brees crazy.

K Major · 12-03-2019, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

For years Brees has made average to good receivers look great. This year we're seeing the reverse, where bad receivers are making it look like Brees' age is starting to take its toll, when that isn't the case.

Seems like we are always missing a critical piece. For years there weren't many holes in the O, but the D looked like a sieve. We were setting records on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, the defensive records were the type you don't want to own.

Once the D line came around we couldn't find a corner. Now that the D has plugged most of the holes, the O only has one reliable receiver. Thank God he's the best in the NFL.

As a Saints fan, this is totally frustrating. It has to be driving Brees crazy.

I find it interesting that the Patriots are having a very similar problem. Lights out on D, good special teams however only one WR you can count on in Julian E.

K Major · 12-03-2019, 11:29 AM

I thought Brees would come un glued after that dropped pass (close to perfect) from Cook.

It was a rainbow. Maybe Jared lost it in the light? I don't know but we need his A game vs the Niners.

cmike · 12-03-2019, 12:47 PM

We don’t need another CGM. All we need are guys that can catch da da*n ball. Including this season Drew has 5 of the top 6 completion% seasons in NFL history. He ain’t the problem, drops are. When you watch teams around the league, players aren’t dropping passes that hit them square in the hands.

st thomas · 12-03-2019, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

We don’t need another CGM. All we need are guys that can catch da da*n ball. Including this season Drew has 5 of the top 6 completion% seasons in NFL history. He ain’t the problem, drops are. When you watch teams around the league, players aren’t dropping passes that hit them square in the hands.

Totally agreed we need a better than ok cook we need a guy that’s all in.

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Halo · 12-03-2019, 04:46 PM

Many may disagree with me but we have the best hands/WR coach in the NFL in Curtis Johnson. When he returned to the Saints we started catching balls again and making receivers from free agents and late round draft picks. When Curtis Johnson returned, he's part (and I mean part) of the reason we stopped the 7-9 seasons.

I think Cook's inconsistency hurts, and same for Tedd Ginn, Jr, but I would argue that Tedd Ginn is over the hill. Time to retire.

Would love to have kept Ben Watson one more season.

It just goes to show you even with the best WR coach in the business, these fools are dropping dimes hitting the palms of both hands.

We need a free agent injection.
I don't think Dez Bryant has recovered fully from his injury (it can take years). We'll probably put Tayson Hill at WR, but we need more..... and why don't we play Hill more?? I can't believe we clinched division and playoff birth and I'm this frustrated - dropped balls are getting ridiculous.

ChrisXVI · 12-03-2019, 08:05 PM

Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas.

st thomas · 12-03-2019, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas.

That’s fuuked up

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vpheughan · 12-04-2019, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas.

HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET

In 2007 what RB had more catches than a WR not named Marques Colston?

Reggie Bush with 73

Colston had 88

Deuce Mcalister 30

44Champs · 12-04-2019, 04:19 PM

Well, Kirkwood's not coming back this year

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12-03-2019, 12:39 PM	#1
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by Halo I saw a 25 yard pass that fell into TE Cook's hands and dropped with a wide open field Cook also dropped another easy touch pass inside the end zone. Tedd Ginn Jr has dropped so many balls this year that I hope we cut him. Those balls have landed right in his hands. Brees decline? Sure... maybe.... who would know if wide receivers don't catch balls. I've read this argument that Brees has been on the decline since 2012. For years Brees has made average to good receivers look great. This year we're seeing the reverse, where bad receivers are making it look like Brees' age is starting to take its toll, when that isn't the case. Seems like we are always missing a critical piece. For years there weren't many holes in the O, but the D looked like a sieve. We were setting records on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, the defensive records were the type you don't want to own. Once the D line came around we couldn't find a corner. Now that the D has plugged most of the holes, the O only has one reliable receiver. Thank God he's the best in the NFL. As a Saints fan, this is totally frustrating. It has to be driving Brees crazy. Halo, cmike and K Major like this.
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12-03-2019, 11:29 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wide Reciever I thought Brees would come un glued after that dropped pass (close to perfect) from Cook. It was a rainbow. Maybe Jared lost it in the light? I don't know but we need his A game vs the Niners. Beastmode and cmike like this.

12-03-2019, 12:47 PM	#4
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Wide Reciever We don’t need another CGM. All we need are guys that can catch da da*n ball. Including this season Drew has 5 of the top 6 completion% seasons in NFL history. He ain’t the problem, drops are. When you watch teams around the league, players aren’t dropping passes that hit them square in the hands. Halo and st thomas like this.

12-03-2019, 02:53 PM	#5
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Wide Reciever Originally Posted by cmike We don’t need another CGM. All we need are guys that can catch da da*n ball. Including this season Drew has 5 of the top 6 completion% seasons in NFL history. He ain’t the problem, drops are. When you watch teams around the league, players aren’t dropping passes that hit them square in the hands. Totally agreed we need a better than ok cook we need a guy that’s all in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-03-2019, 04:46 PM	#6
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Wide Reciever Many may disagree with me but we have the best hands/WR coach in the NFL in Curtis Johnson. When he returned to the Saints we started catching balls again and making receivers from free agents and late round draft picks. When Curtis Johnson returned, he's part (and I mean part) of the reason we stopped the 7-9 seasons. I think Cook's inconsistency hurts, and same for Tedd Ginn, Jr, but I would argue that Tedd Ginn is over the hill. Time to retire. Would love to have kept Ben Watson one more season. It just goes to show you even with the best WR coach in the business, these fools are dropping dimes hitting the palms of both hands. We need a free agent injection. I don't think Dez Bryant has recovered fully from his injury (it can take years). We'll probably put Tayson Hill at WR, but we need more..... and why don't we play Hill more?? I can't believe we clinched division and playoff birth and I'm this frustrated - dropped balls are getting ridiculous. st thomas, cmike and K Major like this.
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12-03-2019, 12:46 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by dam1953 For years Brees has made average to good receivers look great. This year we're seeing the reverse, where bad receivers are making it look like Brees' age is starting to take its toll, when that isn't the case. Seems like we are always missing a critical piece. For years there weren't many holes in the O, but the D looked like a sieve. We were setting records on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, the defensive records were the type you don't want to own. Once the D line came around we couldn't find a corner. Now that the D has plugged most of the holes, the O only has one reliable receiver. Thank God he's the best in the NFL. As a Saints fan, this is totally frustrating. It has to be driving Brees crazy. I find it interesting that the Patriots are having a very similar problem. Lights out on D, good special teams however only one WR you can count on in Julian E.

12-03-2019, 08:05 PM	#7
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12-03-2019, 08:06 PM	#8
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas. That’s fuuked up Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-04-2019, 04:29 PM	#9
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,543	Re: Wide Reciever Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas. HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET In 2007 what RB had more catches than a WR not named Marques Colston? Reggie Bush with 73 Colston had 88 Deuce Mcalister 30
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12-04-2019, 04:19 PM	#10
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