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Old 12-04-2019, 05:26 PM   #51
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Re: Wide Reciever

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Old 12-04-2019, 05:29 PM   #52
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Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas.
HOW QUICKLY WE FORGET

In 2007 what RB had more catches than a WR not named Marques Colston?

Reggie Bush with 73

Colston had 88

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Old 12-04-2019, 05:39 PM   #53
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I remember those days. No Superbowl either. It wasn't until we got Moore, Henderson and Shockey all involved w Colston and Bush that we finally reached the Promised Land. We had so many weapons in 2009

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Old 12-04-2019, 06:23 PM   #54
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:41 PM   #55
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:17 AM   #56
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Remember the car show OVERHAUL? ...

Saints need to do this in the off season as it pertains to our WR's minus CGM.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:53 AM   #57
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I cannot for the life of me figure out why many think that the 3rd/4th receiver position is going to the be the downfall of the Saints. I can understand being annoyed with the drops. But even CGM dropped a ball Thursday.

What exactly is a first round WR pick going to do after balls to CGM, Kamara, Cook, Ginn, and Taysom? And that doesn't even consider other targets to TQS and backup tight ends.

I caught a segment last weekend on Gameday Morning with Kurt Warner on CGM. Kurt made an observation that tracks with the reality of the situation and points to why bringing someone else in isn't going to change much. This is in reference to Brees to Thomas:

This dispels the myth that Brees doesn't target other receivers because they are not open or not getting separation. CGM has a better catch percentage (86%) in contested catches than the rest of the NFL has throwing balls in the flat to open running backs. As Warner observed in the segment "Why would you throw it anywhere else?"

BTW this was true of Teddy too during his run. His QB rating was 40 points higher when targeting CGM than the ball going anywhere else.

Also BTW CGM is a perfect example of why 1st round WR are generally a bad idea. Care to name any of the 1st round WR drafted before CGM? Probably not as it'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.

All anyone who is currently a receiver on the Saints needs to do is catch the damn ball when it's thrown to them. Cook and Ginn, and even CGM, catching those drops makes this a completely different game.

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What I don't understand about your post is why you make it sound like, other than drops, Ginn and Cook and Smith are perfectly fine. They aren't.

The focus of your argument obviously centers around what Kurt Warner said, but Kurt Warner, from my perspective, appears to be speaking out of his butt on this one.

Because, I get it, if Mike is open, why throw anywhere else? You don't. But he's not open on every single play. If he were, he'd have about 3,000 receiving yards right now. And a lot of his catches are short yardage, hence the low average per catch. That's not a criticism of Mike, but rather an indictment on the offense, as a whole.

These guys are not getting open downfield and creating opportunities. There shouldn't have to be so many checkdown throws. I'm not saying you go get a WR in the first round, but you better get one somewhere.
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:25 AM   #58
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We gonna need someone to step up and start making plays. CGM is good but it didn’t work out to we’ll for M. Harrison and the Colts when he caught 143 balls back in 2002. Their next leading receiver was RB E. James. No other receiver on that team had over 49 catches and we’re worst than that. How did it end for them, got blown out by the Jets 0-41 in wildcard rnd . The Patriots have won quite a few SB’s with lesser talent at REC. But the guys they have had, have done their jobs when called upon.
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:30 AM   #59
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We have to have some new offense planned come playoff time , it has to be or were planning on next year early . And I will eat all what’s coming to me if it works out with MT and the scrubs .


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What I don't understand about your post is why you make it sound like, other than drops, Ginn and Cook and Smith are perfectly fine. They aren't.

The focus of your argument obviously centers around what Kurt Warner said, but Kurt Warner, from my perspective, appears to be speaking out of his butt on this one.

Because, I get it, if Mike is open, why throw anywhere else? You don't. But he's not open on every single play. If he were, he'd have about 3,000 receiving yards right now. And a lot of his catches are short yardage, hence the low average per catch. That's not a criticism of Mike, but rather an indictment on the offense, as a whole.

These guys are not getting open downfield and creating opportunities. There shouldn't have to be so many checkdown throws. I'm not saying you go get a WR in the first round, but you better get one somewhere early in the draft. No more unreasonable expectations for UDFA's.


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